Shoestring Sailors (Cruising on $500 per month - part II)

[Todomi]

David Old Jersey -

First-rate effort on the Excel list. Thanks!

[David_Old_Jersey]

Originally Posted by Todomi

David Old Jersey -

First-rate effort on the Excel list. Thanks!

Cheers

Additions still welcome.

[Todomi]

Re: David Old Jersey's list --

Ha! Best line of the whole lot:

"Knowledge saves money."

And a reciprocal might be, "You'll pay for not knowing."

[deckofficer]

Eat local veggies.
No matter what they look like!!!
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ies-80090.html

[Ram]

Originally Posted by deckofficer

Eat local veggies.
No matter what they look like!!!
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ies-80090.html

Here you go, I grow & eat most of my veggies when back in the states -

[savoir]

Originally Posted by kiwitrucker

Saw a comment about budgets for operating a yacht. Where can I find them?

Mine's in the joke section.

[sneuman]

Originally Posted by Doodles

As zee say there is no such thing as free healthcare; although I'm sure we all no cases where someone has gotten it at no charge. Obviously someone else paid for it. I don't want to get into a hot political discussion of the topic but it is very relevant to cruising on $500/mo and bears some discussion.

I don't think it should be about who pays for what (government or the individual) but what the "costs" are and where the best prices are. This is a very interesting analysis of costs (Why an MRI costs $1,080 in America and $280 in France - The Washington Post) and where the problem lies in the US. Since a lot of folks here are cruising US waters and would need US services they are kind of stuck but if you can get to some place like Central America, the Caribbean or SE Asis there is a lot of savings and if you are on a $500/mo budget it will make a big difference. I wrote earlier about my recent experience here in Thailand with a private hospital so I know this to be true. Others with similar experiences have chimed in as well. So, don't despair or get hung up on the US situation, which I think will eventually sort itself out into something like the rest of the developed world, but keep an open mind to what's available elsewhere.

I second the report on Thailand. I lived in Bangkok for four years and medical care there was excellent, efficient and cheap -- in short, everything it isn't in the U.S.

[tropicalescape]

Originally Posted by barnakiel

But off course things can be maintained and restored at anchor or underway.

I have recently completely restored a wooden classic while sailing her from Bombay to Sydney! We had some issues painting the waterline on the lee side but with my skills and a crew of all blacks we did the best job in the southern hemisphere! Believe me or not: the owner was so happy about our job that she treated us to a crate of Veuve Clicquot!

b.

Your skills and a crew of all blacks...?? as in black people? DVC

[IslandHopper]

Originally Posted by tropicalescape

Your skills and a crew of all blacks...?? as in black people? DVC

Being that i am Australian, a crew of "all blacks" translates to a crew of "Kiwi's"..................

[Blue Crab]

Originally Posted by IslandHopper

Being that i am Australian, a crew of "all blacks" translates to a crew of "Kiwi's"..................

In the US, we'd be talking about Canadians.

Not Astrid of course, but all the other ones.

I have a funny joke about Canadians: Happiness is a New Yorker leaving Florida with a Canadian under each arm. Ha ha ha.

[elutherian]

the infamous bahamian shuick my favorite method of travel

[larryb]

One more thing ... to those that think they will live on the hook full time. Where you gonna get the water to shower and bathe? What you gonna do when the creek freezes over in the winter? Think about it.[/QUOTE]


Perusing this thread is interesting and enlightening and so entertaining.
If one thinks they will live on a mooring or the hook in a boat that can't move on it's own, you need to rethink that. I lived on a Tartan 30 on the CA coast for several years. Working times were spent in a marina, nuff said. Non working times on the hook, very satisfying, rewarding and romantic. You need a dependable dinghy, engine optional. I had a west marine deflatable, two horse nissan ob, an ugly hard bottom that could take the motor and rowed easily and kayak. If all else failed, had a long board. Towed hard dink, stowed deflatable on deck when under way. Hard bottom was 'almost free', so expendable if it were to sink while being towed, just cut it away. Moved around enough and used engine enough toe keep batteries charged. Had running lights when needed and radar when needed. Interior lights were led, never had a shortage of amps, didn't need solar or wind generator, seldom used more than 20 gallons a month of fuel in the atomic four. Filled water tank, 30 gallons, and two five gallon sunshowers, pumped holding tank and hosed off boat at fuel dock while fueling. Thus the need to be able to move your boat. Lived large and inexpensively.
Personally, IMO, those living on derilicts waiting for them to sink out from under them are taking up useable mooring and anchorage for those who actually maintain their boats to a certain degree to at least they are moveble. When I was cruising Mex, it struck me as quite selfish and 'unseaman like' for those who never moved their boats and were basically homesteading to have, and keep, the best and closest anchor spots to shore or facilities. If you are living on a derelict boat that is an eysore, causing a problem to navigation, taking up scarce anchorage or mooring space and giving basically a bad image to JQP about the liveaboard lifestyle, you should be living under a bridge somwhere. Oh and by the way, if your boat never moves, and you live on it, where are you pumping out? Duh?? Your are a nuisance, an eyesore and a bio hazard.
Ok, I had my rant.
Damnit man, gotta lay the caffine. Or not....
Larry

[larryb]

Now, what was that about being able to make $1000 a month with over the internet. I am all ears on this one, please, clue me in on that. I'd be all over that like white on rice.
I contacted an on line college about an online ESL course, but they never got back. Any one with info on that.

[zeehag]

i met a couple living on a total of 500 dollars per month income. they are doing quite nicely in mexico. they even have a lovely rhodes bounty. beautiful boat. there are a couple of those beauties here in my area. somehow they manage to make it and be able to fix and maintain their boat--they do all by selves. awesomely done. doesnt take much to make it and grow, and one needn't limit self to small boats to do this.

[gary777g]

Originally Posted by lolarose

Shoestring Sailors

what is shoestring sailor. one that would eat **** if he/she can get it for free. or take own food on boat for thre months cruising, becouse not to spend only single penny.
and then you are suprised why in foreign (even in your ovn) countries no one like to see you, let alone to do "business" with you.

if i ever come in situation to be "shoestring sailor" i would burn my bot and never set my foot on the beach again let alone in the boat.

Obviously, English is not your first language, so we can excuse your spelling and grammar - but not your sentiment. If I am ever lucky enough to live on a boat and unlucky enough to be poor, I will be thrilled to enjoy the experience and very little concerned what other people think.