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16-07-2017, 19:56
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Length of stay in the Med
We are planning to sail the Med for 6 months but have been told you can only stay 3 months.
Can you leave the country and reapply for an extended 3 months?
If so, how long do you have to be away?
Is there any way around it?
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16-07-2017, 20:11
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cowichan Bay, BC (Maple Bay Marina)
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Re: Length of stay in the Med
I lived in California for almost 40 years, and moved to British Columbia last year. I read this great forum regularly. I have no plans to go to the Med with my boat. But KENOMAC is a frequent respondent here and he has written extensively about this very subject.
Dare I suggest you do a custom Google site search on Schengen?
Good luck, do your homework.
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Catalina 34 #224 (1986) C34IA Secretary
Cowichan Bay, BC, SR/FK, M25, Rocna 10 (22#) (NZ model)
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16-07-2017, 20:29
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Elvish meaning 'Far-Wanderer'
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Boat - Greece - Me - Michigan
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Re: Length of stay in the Med
Stu,
It's apparently quite a few forum members pet peeve when someone suggests doing a simple search on this site for a subject that has been covered extensively about 100 times. It doesn't bother me though
Clewless,
Welcome to the forum. No offense is really meant for you. There will undoubtedly be a lot of members who are more than willing to give you the run down on Schengen again. But, since your new you might not know that you can do a simple search of this site by clicking the "Search" tab at the top of the menu. If you choose the custom google search tab and enter "schengen mediterranean" you will find quite a few similar threads. You also can go to the forum sub-category for the Med by clicking the "Forums" button and then looking at the Destinations category and "Europe and Mediterranean" sub-category. There is a lot of info just about cruising there.
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16-07-2017, 20:40
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Re: Length of stay in the Med
Thanks Stu. I note you are in beautiful British Columbia. We were there this past Christmas visiting 2 of our kids. No doubt it's a heck of a lot warmer now than is was then. -20
Cheers!
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16-07-2017, 20:40
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Re: Length of stay in the Med
Thanks for the advice, much appreciated.
Love the quote!
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17-07-2017, 02:25
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 11,002
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Re: Length of stay in the Med
Possible but in without jumping thru some hoops and/or special situations, you get 90 days out of the last 180 days on a rolling basis.
So no, leaving for a day and returning does not reset the clock.
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17-07-2017, 02:54
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
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Re: Length of stay in the Med
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clewless
We are planning to sail the Med for 6 months but have been told you can only stay 3 months.
Can you leave the country and reapply for an extended 3 months?
If so, how long do you have to be away?
Is there any way around it?
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This recent thread should get you started:
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...en-187551.html
You just need to mix in some very nice countries like Montenegro, Albania and Croatia in order to extend your 90 day limit to 180. Plan your trip carefully, and it won't be a problem.
I believe New Zealand may have some treaty arrangements with some EU countries which allow longer stays.
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17-07-2017, 03:03
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: On the boat
Boat: LAGOON 400
Posts: 2,350
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Re: Length of stay in the Med
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Originally Posted by Kenomac
This recent thread should get you started:
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...en-187551.html
You just need to mix in some very nice countries like Montenegro, Albania and Croatia in order to extend your 90 day limit to 180. Plan your trip carefully, and it won't be a problem.
I believe New Zealand may have some treaty arrangements with some EU countries which allow longer stays.
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that is funny - harder restrictions than to get African or Asian from the boat to settle in EU.
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17-07-2017, 03:10
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
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Re: Length of stay in the Med
Quote:
Originally Posted by arsenelupiga
that is funny - harder restrictions than to get African or Asian from the boat to settle in EU.
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You'll need to discuss that with Angela Merkel.
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17-07-2017, 03:18
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: New Zealand
Boat: Beneteau Oceanis 50 'Rogue'
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Re: Length of stay in the Med
Clewless, when are you heading up there and what have ypu brought? We are off from auckland in 2 weeks with a one way flight to france.
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17-07-2017, 09:34
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Currently in Spain
Boat: Island Packet 420
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Re: Length of stay in the Med
I have gotten around the 90 day rule in the Med by applying for residency status in Spain. Now, as an EU resident, I don't have a 90 day problem. But, I do have to be careful to avoid getting taxed here- another issue. Also, this applies to me, I still have to get my boat out of Schengen periodically to avoid VAT.
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17-07-2017, 11:50
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cruising, now in USVIs
Boat: Taswell 43
Posts: 1,045
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Re: Length of stay in the Med
A few years ago (2012-2014) we spent 3 seasons cruising the Med. Based on our experience, it all depends on the mood of the official across the desk! Some countries have the rule in place, but do not pay any attention to it-unless pressed, or have easy work-arounds in place. Other countries are real sticklers. Italy told us we had to check into every port we stopped at-except no one at those ports knew what or why we were checking in....we finally stopped doing it and just played dumb. and then, when we were leaving Italy (we had spent quite a few more than 90 days there and were some concerned) the official said no problem.....it's only 90 days on land(in a port that you admit to) that counts???? Regardless, you do need to know the rules and who enforces Schengen. But talk to local cruisers you'll run into, too,....there's lots of variance!
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17-07-2017, 11:56
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 16,306
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Re: Length of stay in the Med
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailing_gal
I have gotten around the 90 day rule in the Med by applying for residency status in Spain. Now, as an EU resident, I don't have a 90 day problem. But, I do have to be careful to avoid getting taxed here- another issue. Also, this applies to me, I still have to get my boat out of Schengen periodically to avoid VAT.
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I looked into this idea as a way around the Schengen 90 day limit but was concerned about the potential tax exposure. Can you elaborate a little on how you are dealing with that?
Thanks
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17-07-2017, 14:39
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Re: Length of stay in the Med
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Originally Posted by B00B00
Clewless, when are you heading up there and what have ypu brought? We are off from auckland in 2 weeks with a one way flight to france.
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We are not leaving until 01 April 2018. Looking at purchasing a Jeanneau 54DS.
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18-07-2017, 01:04
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cruising the southern coast of Portugal and Spain
Boat: Leopard 40
Posts: 761
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Re: Length of stay in the Med
If you are a US citizen any stay in France will break up the EU 90 day problem. That's because of a bilateral treaty between the US and France. You can also stay in Gibraltar, which is non-EU. Another option is to apply for a visa for six months in one of the EU countries before you go.
Maje
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