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21-06-2017, 00:16
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#106
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Registered User
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Location: Gulf Harbour, New Zealand
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
Ive just got home after a delivery from Tahiti to Hawaii. The winds have really been E or SE for almost all of our trip, even N of the equator. 2-3m seas, these guys are on the wind. It'll be slow going that way. and uncomfortable.
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Matt Paulin
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21-06-2017, 07:47
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#107
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Ohio but the boat is in Georgetown, Maine
Boat: BLock Island 40 Yawl S/V Honeymoon
Posts: 305
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
Godspeed Richard!~
Just my two cents worth.
When Posting on the internet. Before I hitthe post key I always try to reread my post. Then I ask myself would I say this to the persons face and in the the company of everyone that has access to the post. Sometimes a new thread to continue the discussion would sometimes be kinder.
PS. user name changed...
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James Cook
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21-06-2017, 08:47
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#108
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
the craft that was seen a week ago and is being searched for now is only making 1.1 kts way. this is consistent with the winds and headings of a heavy cruiser. last week they did notice a deliberate appearing course change to avoid beam seas, therefore i think we are going to hear some positive news soon.l i am still awaiting ali's updates. when i read them i will post them.
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21-06-2017, 13:17
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#109
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Moderator
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Location: aboard, in Tasmania, Australia
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
Thanks, Zee.
Yes, beating into the trades can slow you down, plus, man, I think I'd heave to to rest, which of course would lose you ground that you worked hard for, but......
Ann
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21-06-2017, 13:28
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#110
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Senior Cruiser
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
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Originally Posted by JPA Cate
I think I'd heave to to rest
Ann
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We did that all the time but on Silk (our first boat), just hove to and waited for the wind direction to change. That boat was a classic centerboard ketch and did not make good progress upwind (like I suspect the boats in the op's) so seemed much better to just take a break, get some rest, read some books, cook some good meals; rather than bash our brains out for little progress.
Hawk was a machine upwind, and we did not do this on her. She made good time pretty much no matter what the conditions, and sometimes we just held on and let her go for it. Made me sea sick, but that's just free weight loss
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23-06-2017, 07:37
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#111
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
searching has been suspended. uscg estimates richards time of arrival in hiva oa approx june 26. we, here in mazatlan, figure mebbe mid july at his current rate of speed, 1.1 kts hourly.
ali, richards daughter will advise me of his successful arrival when it occurs. then i will have more information for you.
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23-06-2017, 17:17
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#112
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Location: Nola
Boat: 97 Hunter 430 43 ft.
Posts: 369
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
Thanks for the update
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23-06-2017, 17:30
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#113
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Posts: 374
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
How long has the vessel been traveling at 1.1 kts? Seems like after a while some wind would fill back in eh?
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23-06-2017, 23:33
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#114
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Carlsbad, CA
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
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Originally Posted by hobopacket
How long has the vessel been traveling at 1.1 kts? Seems like after a while some wind would fill back in eh?
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If they are only going 1.1 knota would expect they lost the stick and are proceeding under jury rig. That would also go a long ways to their losing voice communications if the antenna was part of the rigging.
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24-06-2017, 00:34
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#115
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Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: aboard, in Tasmania, Australia
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
roverhi,
That is a reasonable hypothesis, but the vessel was in the ITCZ. As long as Richard has water (and he is likely to be able to catch some there), he should make it in, and perhaps a lot thinner. However, if he is becalmed, he may be able to satisfactorily fish, and that is good, too.
Evans is right, heaving to can be an opportunity; sometimes unnecessary.
Let's just keep good hopes going for Richard.
A.
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24-06-2017, 06:35
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#116
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
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Posts: 20,441
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
Thanks for updates. PLS keep it alive.
barnakiel
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24-06-2017, 20:16
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#117
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
so tomorrow was his projected eta. me n a neighbor figgered at 1.1 kts he will arrive in hiva oa mid july from his last recorded point.
the uscg forst pass showed Richard had changed course from beam seas to bashing into seas, with a more direct course towards hiva oa.
mid july.
god only knows why he slowed to the crawl he is travelling other than big seas with short periods and forming cyclonic event not that very far away, he should be having absolutely no fun at all.
so I have a peso on mid july. come on Richard.
the boat akesha left ensenada to hiva oa and arrived 51 days after departure.
less distance than Richard must cover on his passage.
mid july.
sea nymph was overdue on arrival in hiva oa-- there is not yet reason to believe that Richard is not on board and bashing into rough stuff with impending doom forming on his stbd beam. is giving me the chills thinking about it..
ps he has a watermaker but if electricals have failed that wont be much use.
I did see him loading garafones of water before leaving mazatlan for Puerto Vallarta.
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03-07-2017, 11:00
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#118
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: 2023 - Colombia
Boat: Amazon 49 cutter, custom steel boat built in Surrey, Canada
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
I haven't seen any updates on this for a week. Any news on Richard?
Steve
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03-07-2017, 12:33
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#119
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cat herder, extreme blacksheep
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
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Originally Posted by steve77
I haven't seen any updates on this for a week. Any news on Richard?
Steve
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\have heard nothing. i am holding my breath that he appears in hiva oa mid july, but there has been no word after sar abandoned.
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03-07-2017, 12:55
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#120
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
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Re: Two cruising boats missing in the Pacific
Thanks for the update. I stay tuned.
b.
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