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Old 24-04-2021, 15:00   #46
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Yes, thanks. I thought your post, # 38, was an indirect, and kind, response to my question posed in post 33.

Thanks for that. All sorted.

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I hope the situation works itself out, frankly. That's a lot of nice boat to be at risk. Take care, Paul.
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Old 24-04-2021, 15:07   #47
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I'm always at a loss as to how someone can, in good conscience, drop a hook and immediately leave the boat. Especially if there's another boat within 200m of them.
However, it happens so often, I'm sure I'm the odd man out. No worries, I'm accustomed to standing on the outside looking in. I'm comfortable there; it's less crowded!

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Old 24-04-2021, 15:08   #48
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UPDATE: Anchored Too Close

The other boat owner is aware, has the video OP sent, and says they are on the boat.

In case people see this.


(that was the right Instagram)
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Old 24-04-2021, 15:09   #49
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... Pulling my anchor is not an option at this moment....

Why is it physically impossible to move by kedging? In post 10 you said it was slack tide and calm. It was not. Therefore, you have not done all you could reasonably do to avoid damamge. Stand-on is only a valid defense when time and circumstance did not allow action. But you've told us you did have time and calm weather.
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Old 24-04-2021, 15:37   #50
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Well... I was but now I'm a CF member so I guess not..
Such a waste of time to discuss something that can be fixed in a couple minutes by simply moving away.

Also, I have never heard of the idea of touching someone else's boat or moving their anchor just because they don't know how to anchor at a proper distance.

Best just to get away from them.
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Old 24-04-2021, 17:19   #51
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The boat is very nice and well put together Alberg 37. Heavy and deep draft. The Alberg drifted to inside 10’ before I decided to act. Got in dinghy, didn’t have to start motor and pulled along side the Alberg. Since the current is running I thought I could pull anchor and let boat drift back and reset. Pulled in about 40 ft of chain, it’s dead low now, and the boat is more comfortably away. The wind is against the current so the boat is a little up on its rode. There is a mechanical windlass which would have helped break the anchor but there is no handle to be found. I’m in my 70’s now so struggling to pull that anchor is a challenge. Tomorrow could really suck if they don’t return. Not to over state conditions tomorrow, wind from SE steady high teens with gusts to 35. Bad enough I have to worry about my own boat.

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I’m pretty sure that would put the OPs boat on top of the other boat.

Going by the above quote, if he pulled in about 40 ft of the alberg's chain which improved the separation then letting out some more of his own rode would have surely achieved a similar result, no?
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Old 24-04-2021, 19:11   #52
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Going by the above quote, if he pulled in about 40 ft of the alberg's chain which improved the separation then letting out some more of his own rode would have surely achieved a similar result, no?


Sure, until the tide changed.
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Old 24-04-2021, 19:48   #53
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[QUOTE=Tar34;3393871... I’m taking care of mechanical issues and not in a position to pull up anchor. ...[/QUOTE]

If a sailboat, you should be able to raise anchor and move to a better position.
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Old 24-04-2021, 20:00   #54
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People should give the OP a break, he’s in his 70’s, solo, motor out of action in a wind against tide situation in a river.
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Old 24-04-2021, 20:03   #55
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I agree with Thinwater, just row out a second anchor ahead and at a slight angle to the first when the tide is nearly slack. Take it 20ft+ farther than where your current anchor sits. Take in on the new one and it will move you forward and a bit to the side.

Problem solved and you are more securely anchored for any storm.
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People should give the OP a break, he’s in his 70’s, solo, motor out of action in a wind against tide situation in a river.
I would give the OP a break. Probably he is a nice guy and needs a friend.

But unfortunately since he is solo, has been unable to get his motor fixed, and cannot shift his anchor if needed, he is a liability in an anchorage.

I only hope that when I am in that state I am savvy enough to know when it's time to to take the needed action, which may be to get out of boat ownership.

Owning a boat carries with it some responsibility. The owner of the Alberg has his responsibility, maybe he is meeting it. The OP also has his.
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Old 24-04-2021, 20:18   #57
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Going by the above quote, if he pulled in about 40 ft of the alberg's chain which improved the separation then letting out some more of his own rode would have surely achieved a similar result, no?

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Sure, until the tide changed.

Yep, and having reduced the neighbours scope by 40 ft, with the tide change it puts the neighbour how much closer than before?
I think I would rather manage the distance manipulation from my own boat than having to venture onto someone else's multiple times.
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Old 24-04-2021, 22:07   #58
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Such a waste of time to discuss something that can be fixed in a couple minutes by simply moving away.

Also, I have never heard of the idea of touching someone else's boat or moving their anchor just because they don't know how to anchor at a proper distance.

Best just to get away from them.
If he is unable to move his anchor, for whatever reason, what solution do you suggest?
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Happy ending. All is secure, the Alden crew are back in command, gracious and thankful. As for myself, I did what I had to do to secure both vessels. All options and criticisms tendered humbly accepted and acknowledged. Keep it simple.
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Happy ending. All is secure, the Alden crew are back in command, gracious and thankful. As for myself, I did what I had to do to secure both vessels. All options and criticisms tendered humbly accepted and acknowledged. Keep it simple.
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