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Van Der Beek · 03-06-2020, 05:59

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Originally Posted by tp12

Yes, I did.

Excellent, then don't deny it by saying I misconstrued or misunderstood what you were saying.

Perhaps you're a bit confused, perhaps you meant "Climate change denial" which of course brings us back to no one ever having denied we have a climate, or that climate changes.

Group9 · 03-06-2020, 06:00

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Originally Posted by OloteleMtn

I gave up watching them when they gave Greta Thunberg a ride.

Same here. I don't like my sailing mixed in with politics. . No matter how badly someone wants to give it to me that way.

They are free to do that. Just like I was free to cancel my Patreon account with them and to quit watching.

tp12 · 03-06-2020, 06:01

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Originally Posted by Van Der Beek

Excellent, then don't deny it by saying I misconstrued or misunderstood what you were saying.

You've rather selectively quoted my response. Here's what you edited out:

"None of that is relevant to your post. It looks like you don't understand what a climate science denier is."

That's a dishonest way of holding a discussion and I'll thank you kindly not to misrepresent me again.

**StuM** · 03-06-2020, 06:12

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Originally Posted by tp12

That's a dishonest way of holding a discussion and I'll thank you kindly not to misrepresent me again.

Sure, as soon as you stop misrepresenting me.

tp12 · 03-06-2020, 06:13

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Originally Posted by StuM

Sure, as soon as you stop misrepresenting me.

I haven't. Seriously, let's try and lift the level here shall we?

Van Der Beek · 03-06-2020, 06:14

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Originally Posted by tp12

You've rather selectively quoted my response.

You denied having called StuMa a climate science denier and authoritarian. I quoted you having done exactly that at page 7 post# 101

Nothing selective it's right there.

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Originally Posted by tp12

That's a dishonest way of holding a discussion and I'll thank you kindly not to misrepresent me again.

I haven't misrepresented you. I have quoted you.

Van Der Beek · 03-06-2020, 06:15

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Originally Posted by tp12

I haven't. Seriously, let's try and lift the level here shall we?

We're waiting for you to catch up.

tp12 · 03-06-2020, 06:18

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Originally Posted by Van Der Beek

You denied having called StuMa a climate science denier and authoritarian. I quoted you having done exactly that at page 7 post# 101

Nothing selective it's right there.

No, I didn't. You're having reading comprehension issues.

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Originally Posted by Van Der Beek

I haven't misrepresented you. I have quoted you.

Yes, you have. You quoted only part of my text which looked as though I had a different view to what I did. The rest of my post, that you edited out, explained that. But you left it out to win some cheap point. It's dishonest and you've got a thick skin to even attempt to defend doing that.

Let's not let this thread descend into more silliness and lift the level.

tp12 · 03-06-2020, 06:19

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Originally Posted by Van Der Beek

We're waiting for you to catch up.

I think you're under a misapprehension.

S/V Adeline · 03-06-2020, 06:22

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Originally Posted by tp12

Nah, I'm not but I'm not going to get into a debate with a climate science denier. I don't think anyone should, anymore, either. This isn't an alternative viewpoint, it's simply science denial. It's akin to putting 'Karen the anti-vaxxer' on the same footing as an immunologist. Or someone who believes that Bill Gates is trying to develop a vaccine to inject mind control nanobots that will be activated by 5G or similar rubbish.

It's usually, but not limited to, middle aged white men, right wing with authoritarian tendencies, who rail against Greta and climate science and it's no surprise that you fit this category. And those who are similarly minded. A more interesting conversation to me is why is this so? Fear of being left behind by a world that is changing and not responding to authoritarian attempts to control it and make it go back? There's a lot of support for that argument. There's certainly been a lot written about why people do that. Interestingly there's a lot of overlap on the Venn diagram of those people and conspiracy theorists. I'm much more interested in a more academic conversation trying to understand the why behind this.

Science has shown this planet has gone through this exact cycle some 16 times in roughly 1 million years...

But if you don't agree it's caused by people and pollution THIS TIME, you are labeled a "science denier" and ridiculed.

Nobody denies the science, some people politicize the science for political gain.

Van Der Beek · 03-06-2020, 06:23

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Originally Posted by tp12

No, I didn't. You're having reading comprehension issues.

Yes you did, and stop talking to yourself, you are now coming across as rather unhinged.

No comprehension issues with your own posts that I quoted at page 7 post# 101.

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Originally Posted by tp12

Let's not let this thread descend into more silliness and lift the level.

Like I said in my previous post, we're still waiting for you to catch up.

tp12 · 03-06-2020, 06:23

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Originally Posted by S/V Adeline

Science has shown this planet has gone through this exact cycle some 16 times in roughly 1 million years...

But if you don't agree it's caused by people and pollution THIS TIME, you are labeled a "science denier" and ridiculed.

Nobody denies the science, some people politicize the science for political gain.

No, it hasn't. And yes, this is climate science denial and not worthy of airtime. This isn't a matter of opinion or differing views.

tp12 · 03-06-2020, 06:26

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Originally Posted by Van Der Beek

Yes you did, and stop talking to yourself, you are now coming across as rather unhinged.

No comprehension issues with your own posts that I quoted at page 7 post# 101.

Like I said in my previous post, were' still waiting for you.

Talking to myself? That's a weird take.

Yes, again, you don't understand what it is I wrote and how your reply doesn't address it.

It seems you guys aren't going to bring the level up, unsurprisingly, and I'm not interested in where you're taking this thread so I'll leave you to it.