Smallest pocket cruiser with marine head

[Gypsyjon]

Eastern Boats, who also make Seaway boats have a 21 footer with V-birth and pump out head.

I have a Seaway 24 CC with a pump out head.

https://www.easternboats.com/our-boats

[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by Kelkara

The OP diesn't say where he is located, but his username suggests it might be in Ontario ... so it is worth pointing out that Ontario does not allow porta-potties unless they are secured to the boat and plumbed to a deck pumpout.

That is apparently easy to do as that is what my CC had, I’m sure there is a kit or something.

[ArmyDaveNY]

The Catlina 25s are a pretty good value for the money with a rather large head. I am talking about the ones in the last twenty years or so. I delivered one down the coast and was pretty impressed with the interior room given its size.

[CarinaPDX]

Have a look at the 22' Falmouth Cutter, the fiberglass version of the Pardey's Seraffyn.

Greg

[hamburking]

I owned a C&C25mk1. For a 25 foot boat, it was huge, and could handle just about any wind and waves you could imagine. It had a real, porcelain, marine head with proper holding tank with (proper deck fittings) pump-out, and all the smelly hoses that go along with it. It was also very comfortable for 3 people to go on week long trips, especially if 2 of those people are under 10 years old.

[hamburking]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

That is apparently easy to do as that is what my CC had, I’m sure there is a kit or something.

I am also in Ontario. I owned a Tanzer 22 with a properly installed "porta potti" which was bolted in place (factory installed) with deck fittings for pump-out. It was located beneath the centre cushion of the vee berth, offering little head room, and zero privacy. Needless to say, it was never used.

[hamburking]

I think it would be quite unusual to choose a sailboat solely by its "head", but perhaps its just one criteria of many.

My daughter owned a Siren 17. Its a capable trailer sailor with a huge cockpit and fun to sail. It had a factory installed "head". It was a locker (below, forward) with a round hole on top (with cover)...the seat...and plumbing to allow pump-out. Although it "legally" was a proper head, its not the sort of thing I would ever...uh...sit on.

[yorkville]

Thank you all for the advices. Really appreciate the help.


I am located in Pudget Sound Seattle area. It seems composting toilet is a viable alternative to marine head with holding tank. I think that will free up more rooms as its a simplier system.


Most of the suggestions here are for sailing boat. I am actually leaning towards a powerboat, as it offers more room for liveaboard.

[Mike Banks]

I would advise a trailer-sailer rather than a small pocket cruiser. If you are going to forgo the convenience of trailering a 26 footer or less to different locations and paying no marina fees when you take it home, then I would get something larger than a small one--say 32 to forty feet.

But--if you insist on being small and stuck in a marina--then a Contessa 26 or its equivalent. You can add a plastic holding tank, even a removable one, for a couple of hundred dollars or so--and another three hundred for the heads pedestal and macerater pump--and if you want to be uber-safe, a chlorination pre-treatment of sewage such as by using a Sani-chlor or similar system will pre-sterilise what sewage is retained in the holding tank, as well as rendering biologically safe any sewage discharged overboard. The Sani-chlor system uses liquid swimming pool chlorine solution.

If you are going to spend extensive times at sea and have power to burn--one could try an Electrosan system. To use it in a lake one would have to add swimming pool salt.

I used heavy plastic water containers fitted into racks as sewage tanks, so I could carry the filled tanks of sterilised macerated sewage ashore to a discharge facility, or a spot where the sewage could be buried. There are environmentally friendly sterilants available, but they are not cheap--one adds them to the bowl before flushing. I used such sewage in my garden--it worked well.

[Martkimwat]

ometic do a Portable toilet 972 0r 976 (8.9 litre or 18.9 litre waste tank respectively) which also have the facility to purchase a pump out and hold down kit so that they can be fixed in place. I have the 976 on my Parker 27 (26 foot) after removing the original sea toilet. I had a similar setup without the pump out facility on a little 16 foot gaff cutter that had two berths in a sitting headroom only cabin. It sat under the step into the cabin. You do not need a seawater inlet, only an outlet with a separate bilge type pump to pump it out when at sea. Has worked fine on my Parker since I installed it three years back and means I don't have any worries where I go.(literally!)

[KP44]

Originally Posted by ebsail

A Porta-Poty is a self contained head as its base will hold about 5 gallons. It can be emptied into an ordinary land based toilet and will not cause any problem.

Fine to empty this into a toilet as long as it is not a septic system. The normal stuff we put into holding tanks is VERY BAD for septic systems.


I think there are 16' and 19' pocket cruiser called West Wight Potters. Here's an article on pocket cruisers.

https://www.practical-sailor.com/blo...l-11602-1.html

[KP44]

Our first (fiberglass) sailboat was a 23' Aquarius with a swing keel. Incredibly roomy for 23'. Tender but forgiving and handy to sail. A great pocket cruiser. With 4 people on a rainy 3-day weekend and it never felt crowded.

Now we have a Kelley-Peterson 46. (grin)

[ranger58sb]

Originally Posted by yorkville

Most of the suggestions here are for sailing boat. I am actually leaning towards a powerboat, as it offers more room for liveaboard.

Originally Posted by KP44

I think there are 16' and 19' pocket cruiser called West Wight Potters. Here's an article on pocket cruisers.

OP posted in the Powerboat section, and see also his post #23.

-Chris

[Group9]

Our Cape Dory 25D had a huge head area (it was placed in the forepeak), with a flushing toilet and holding tank. I've been on forty five footers with smaller heads that it had.

[Lake-Effect]

Originally Posted by ranger42c

OP posted in the Powerboat section, and see also his post #23.

Um...err...ahh... yes - so they did.