For Sale: Jon Sayer fast cruiser For SALE

[Bcoianiz]

Originally Posted by Russ

Why is West System” hard to foul” barnacles and slime aren’t picky.

I am sorry. I did not specify. I did not intend foul regarding barnacles and slime. OF course, they are not picky...
Fibreglass can laminate in the stress points. Strip planking West system is a more rigid structure by itself. Upon impact or big stress, it comes out on top. It is a more expensive way to make a boat but still preferred by boat builders. Furthermore, if you have damage to your hull it does not spread so easy and can be repaired and still have the strength and rigidity of before.

[roverhi]

Originally Posted by Bcoianiz

Hi Don

Yes.I totally agree that it is a sense of humour.

But just average optimal speed a sailor would like on an average boat. I once had a 28 foot boat and I was happy with 6 knots in 10 knots of wind

Hull speed on my 28' boat is 6.43k. If I was going 6k in a 10k breeze would be very happy especially if it was to weather.

And yes my original comment was sarcasm. Always hear the complaint that traditional boats are so dark inside. That boat couldn't be more to the opposite extreme. Nothing against the boat as beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The overall specifications look to be very good and I have a soft spot for cold molded construction.

[Bcoianiz]

Originally Posted by roverhi

Hull speed on my 28' boat is 6.43k. If I was going 6k in a 10k breeze would be very happy especially if it was to weather.

And yes my original comment was sarcasm. Always hear the complaint that traditional boats are so dark inside. That boat couldn't be more to the opposite extreme. Nothing against the boat as beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The overall specifications look to be very good and I have a soft spot for cold molded construction.

To weather is a tough one always.
Just for your info, I bought Siren in Hong Kong as a pure racer. I wanted a fast cruiser. So I took her to a shipyard in the Philippines. It took me only 52 hours to do 650 nautical miles. But the noise was outrageous with the waves as she is very stiff as a hull. So I Made beds, put a kitchen a table, made a shower, generator and aircon. With total insulation. I come from the interior design world so I designed it by myself. The craftsmanship of the workers was more than brilliant. Everything is done by hand and very lightweight. I think she is a great example of turning a racer into a cruiser/racer at a cheap price. I was going to make more windows for a better view and more light then I decided just more leaks and extra heat. Older boats are darker because the wood and the paint is dark. The interiors are a shining light grey and everything is minimalistic with wood as ornamental. Thus, you have a reflection of light. But most of all no sharp corners as they really hurt.

[Compass790]

Originally Posted by Russ

Why is West System” hard to foul” barnacles and slime aren’t picky.

Yes my mind had a little boggle with that one too. The barnacles etc are only going to see paint & under that resin/glass. Little do they know there are skinny strips of cedar under there.
I assumed it was an English not 1st language error

[LLCoolDave]

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...nced%20listing 330k US

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/200...owse%20listing 120k US

Looks like this boat is for sale at many prices. Caveat Emptor.

[JPA Cate]

LLCoolDave,

The boat you posted links to is called "Siren".

The boat for sale in this thread is "Sayernara." Different boats.

Ann

[IslandHopper]

Originally Posted by JPA Cate

LLCoolDave,

The boat you posted links to is called "Siren".

The boat for sale in this thread is "Sayernara." Different boats.

Ann

Actually Ann the boat's name is now Siren (ex Sayernara) same boat....

Also been posted on CF before, go to post 6 in the below thread....

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post2232598

Also.....

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1210406...sts=1&adults=1

....and a previous photo of her on J. Sayer's website....

"Siren (Sayernara) Sayer 43 Ex shorthanded Melbourne Osaka winner"

Photo Gallery - S A Y E R D E S I G N

[44'cruisingcat]

Originally Posted by Don C L

BTW your poll is tough to answer... if I have a 70' she BETTER do 8 kts in a 10 kt breeze or I am taking her back to the showroom. But a 30' YACHT doing doing 8 kts in a 10 kt breeze will be a trifle on the Spartan side... not that that is a bad thing!

Poll doesn't mention point of sail either. Beam reach we'd want to be over 8kts, closer to 10, DDW we'd be happy to get around 6.

[JPA Cate]

Originally Posted by IslandHopper

Actually Ann the boat's name is now Siren (ex Sayernara) same boat....

Also been posted on CF before, go to post 6 in the below thread....

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post2232598

Also.....

https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/1210406...sts=1&adults=1


....and a previous photo of her on J. Sayer's website....

"Siren (Sayernara) Sayer 43 Ex shorthanded Melbourne Osaka winner"

Photo Gallery - S A Y E R D E S I G N

Good one! thanks for fixing my error.

Ann

[wingssail]

Originally Posted by Bcoianiz

Totally re-fitted (for cruising) in 2009. Carbon Mast & Boom, aircon & heating

Ex Sayernara (winner of the Osaka cup)
200 mile + a day. Bluewater
Need to sell due to relocation and health
Located in Thailand
Price 149.000 USD

Contact bcoianiz@gmail.com

Great looking boat, great specs. Would be a wonderful sailor, or racer cruiser.

I wonder, though, with the genset and air con/heating system, but overall light weight, how much storage and tankage for long distance cruising?

[Adonf46]

Originally Posted by Bcoianiz

Totally re-fitted (for cruising) in 2009. Carbon Mast & Boom, aircon & heating

Ex Sayernara (winner of the Osaka cup)
200 mile + a day. Bluewater
Need to sell due to relocation and health
Located in Thailand
Price 149.000 USD

Contact bcoianiz@gmail.com

Kabota engine Kabota genset , is this a new brand of marine equipment?

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by Adonf46

Kabota engine Kabota genset , is this a new brand of marine equipment?

Kabota is a Japanese manufacturer of diesel engines, one of the largest in the world. Many marques of marine engines are based upon their blocks, and they have a very strong reputation for reliability and long lives. The same is true for other applications such as gen sets.

Jim

[Adonf46]

I was just being facetious, I think that if you check it is actually KUBOTA !

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by wingssail

Great looking boat, great specs. Would be a wonderful sailor, or racer cruiser.

I wonder, though, with the genset and air con/heating system, but overall light weight, how much storage and tankage for long distance cruising?

Good question, Fred. I know that on our slightly larger Sayer finding space for those items would surely encroach on storage and living space. The reported tankage on Siren (500 L water, 150 L diesel) is possibly adequate but not generous... especially if one is running the gen set to keep the a/c going.

And I wonder if the quoted displacement includes those heavy items?

But, she would be a really fun boat to sail!

Jim

[fxykty]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

Kabota is a Japanese manufacturer of diesel engines, one of the largest in the world. Many marques of marine engines are based upon their blocks, and they have a very strong reputation for reliability and long lives. The same is true for other applications such as gen sets.



Jim

Don’t you mean ‘Kubota’?

We have Nanni 4.150 HE motors which are marinised from Kubota VE 1505-e diesel engines with the addition of a salt water cooling system and heat exchanger.