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Old 11-05-2021, 02:39   #1
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A Sailor's Carbon Offset

As the EU and the US considers applying carbon tax on imports from China and other polluting nations,....
.... should liveaboard, off-grid sailors be given carbon tax credits, for their efforts to use clean energy for domestic and transport purposes ?

This article puts into economic perspective, how much pollution goes into the creation of energy and how badly China is behaving.

It would be nice if sailors are recognized for their green lifestyle .

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What would/could I do with these credits if given to me?
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I've got all the carbon offsets I need already:


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What would/could I do with these credits if given to me?
They'll give you immunity when burning masses of plastic on beaches..
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If the credits are paid in beer, I'm in .
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Old 11-05-2021, 06:02   #6
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They'll give you immunity when burning masses of plastic on beaches..
Seems like a plus, that cost me $$$$$$$ this year. How about some government paid diesel.
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Please take a look at how much trash it takes to build a fiberglass boat. Literally thousands of pounds of materials that will never be recycled. Next look at all the volatile organics and the list of chemicals used to make the materials used in boatbuilding. A fiberglass boat filled with lead and coated with copper will end up where? No one has a good solution.
At least a steel hull can rust to death and my aluminum boat can be turned into beer cans. Actually my manatee crew is hard at work drinking beer as fast as possible then beating the cans flat for a new dinghy.
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This threads a whole lot more laugh provoking than the one on burning trash.
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If the credits are paid in beer, I'm in .
Thats the spirit!
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Carbon credit is all about control and taxation and very little with the environment. You could sell your credit...like Tesla does to other car manufacturers. Who pays...you pay when you buy a car.
The hypocracy is those politicians who make the laws live in their mansions with luxury cars and jets ala Al Gore, while the little people try to save the planet.


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Oh, rats I thought the guvmint was gonna give ME something. Shucks.
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You don't believe they'll give you Courvoisier for your credits????? Tsk.

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One of the good things about a carbon tax is that it you use it, you pay for it. Relatively easy to administrate.

What’s a carbon tax?
A carbon tax is a fee imposed on the burning of carbon-based fuels (coal, oil, gas). More to the point: a carbon tax is the core policy for reducing and eventually eliminating the use of fossil fuels whose combustion is destabilizing and destroying our climate....

The carbon content of every fossil fuel, from anthracite or lignite coal to heating oil and natural gas, is precisely known. A carbon tax obeys these proportions, taxing coal more heavily than petroleum products, and much more than natural gas. This makes a carbon tax simple to document and measure....

Utilizing existing tax collection mechanisms, a carbon tax is paid “upstream,” i.e., at the point where fuels are extracted from the Earth and put into the stream of commerce, or imported into the U.S. Fuel suppliers and processors are free to pass along the cost of the tax to the extent that market conditions allow. Placing a tax on carbon gives consumers and producers a monetary incentive to reduce their carbon dioxide emissions.

Carbon that is chemically bound into manufactured products such as plastics but is not burned will not be taxed. Similarly, any CO2 from energy production that is permanently sequestered rather than released into the atmosphere won’t be taxed (or will receive an offsetting tax credit). Additionally, some carbon tax proposals include exemptions for export-dependent businesses to help them remain competitive in global markets.

For nuts and bolts of administering a carbon tax, click here.

For a summary of carbon taxes in other countries, click here.
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Then, on the eve of the doomed launch, 15 Morton-Thiokol engineers agreed--unanimously--that NASA shouldn't launch the Challenger. They were fearful that overnight sub-freezing temperatures at the Kennedy Space Center would prevent the O-rings from functioning properly. (Morton-Thiokol had never bothered to test the rings' performance at such low temperatures).
It was ultimately NASA's decision to launch the shuttle.

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Re: A Sailor's Carbon Offset

Thirty-three posts have been deleted for being off topic and devolving into complaining about taxation in general.

Please help keep the thread focused on the issue at hand: "Should liveaboard, off-grid sailors be given carbon credits for their efforts to use clean energy for domestic and transport purposes?"

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