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Old 18-05-2021, 13:15   #106
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Re: A Sailor's Carbon Offset

Near as I can tell a gallon of rum requires about 100,000 BTUs of energy.

Don’t know how to calculate carbon production from that.

How many carbon credits is that?

https://ilsr.org/wp-content/uploads/...lnetenergy.pdf
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It takes less than half a gallon of crude to produce a pound of plastic. So a barrel can produce about 10 gallons of diesel or 84 pounds of plastic...

The flaw in this sort of arguments is that of saying you get only "so many" pounds of fillet mignon from a steer, when clearly, the entire steer is used for some product, even if only hot dogs and dog food. By the same token, less some energy used in the processing, nearly all of a barrel of crude is made into something valuable, if only paving tar, which BTW is comparable to fuel value.


A barrel of crude is converted more than 90% into products. Not all is gasoline, diesel, or plastic, because it is a mixture and not all of it is suitable for any one thing. It must be separated into many things.


I spent years in refineries, and we could always make something out of what was left from something else. Nearly always.
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Old 18-05-2021, 13:19   #108
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Near as I can tell a gallon of rum requires about 100,000 BTUs of energy.

Don’t know how to calculate carbon production from that.

How many carbon credits is that?

https://ilsr.org/wp-content/uploads/...lnetenergy.pdf

You are a bad man...



Think about how much CO2 is produced from the wee little beasties converting sugar into alcohol....


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Old 18-05-2021, 13:20   #109
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Re: A Sailor's Carbon Offset

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Near as I can tell a gallon of rum requires about 100,000 BTUs of energy.

Don’t know how to calculate carbon production from that.

How many carbon credits is that?

https://ilsr.org/wp-content/uploads/...lnetenergy.pdf
Depends on how they get the btu's. If burning the cane husks and or coconut coir then it's carbon neutral
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Old 18-05-2021, 13:21   #110
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I would have to go for rum in payment .
Mount Gay will do in a pinch .
Would love to tour them .
https://www.mountgayrum.com/

Well over 300 years continuously distilled in Barbados.

That would be a great place to visit as well! Though, if we spent money like we have done buying some single malts from certain Scottish distilleries...


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Black Bush is a blend, or, err, a marriage.

https://bushmills.com/whiskeys/black-bush/

Notice they did not use the word blend but married. That does not make it less good either.
Yes indeed, Black Bush is a blend ... a very nice blend .

Bushmills does make a single malt. It is also very nice.




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If I really wanted to stir the pot, pun intended, is it Irish if it is made in Northern Ireland?
Causing "troubles"?
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Because it's Irish
Lol, reminds me of an Andy Capp cartoon, where he is a guest in a home and he is being offered a wee dram of whisky

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25 years old?...... bit small for its age[emoji16]
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The flaw in this sort of arguments is that of saying you get only "so many" pounds of fillet mignon from a steer, when clearly, the entire steer is used for some product, even if only hot dogs and dog food. By the same token, less some energy used in the processing, nearly all of a barrel of crude is made into something valuable, if only paving tar, which BTW is comparable to fuel value.


A barrel of crude is converted more than 90% into products. Not all is gasoline, diesel, or plastic, because it is a mixture and not all of it is suitable for any one thing. It must be separated into many things.


I spent years in refineries, and we could always make something out of what was left from something else. Nearly always.
Solyent Green anyone?
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Yes indeed, Black Bush is a blend ... a very nice blend .

Bushmills does make a single malt. It is also very nice.




Causing "troubles"?
That Single Malt 10yrs is the one I saw available in Manila .
Which..one is the better for first taste?
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"It takes less than half a gallon of crude to produce a pound of plastic"

I think the primary feed stock for the petrochemical industry, which in turn produces the feed stock which most plastics are made from, is actually methane from natural gas.
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That Single Malt 10yrs is the one I saw available in Manila .
Which..one is the better for first taste?
I prefer their Black Bush, but I'd never turn down the offer of either.
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Causing "troubles"?
Just a bit of wee stirring. Having said that, I did think carefully about what I said before posting.

While the major flames of The Troubles have subsided, there are many embers still glowing across the island. I am afraid it won't take much to fan the embers back into flames. There still is a bit of sectarian violence and ethic cleansing happening.

On our last trip to Ireland we drove across the border into Northern Ireland. The landscape is stunningly beautiful, irregardless of which side of the border one is on. Stereotypical with the greens of the island, the roads, the fields, little cottages, and villages. Just stunning. But as I told my wife as we drove along, not that long ago, this was a war zone, and we would NOT have taken the route we did. We went through one town where a bomb went off that killed a dozen people and wounded over 60. It is hard to juxtapose the beauty of the landscape and the people with the horrendous violence that occurred not that long ago.

Just talking to the locals in passing conversation, brings up the topic of The Troubles. We met an American, who had married an Irish woman, and his brother in law was part of the IRA team that almost killed Thatcher. Totally random chance of meeting that guy.

We love Ireland and can't wait to go back. We have spent a couple of weeks on a boat in Scotland and Ireland, which was awesome, but nowhere near enough time. We did visit a distillery or two.

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I once spent a very pleasant evening in Portrush sitting in the cabin of a small sailboat with a retired policeman from Northern Ireland and a former IRA member sharing "a wee bit of whiskey" and playing old rock songs from the 70's on a couple of acoustic guitars. The only "troubles" we had that night was keeping the guitars in tune. Let's hope it stays that way.
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I once spent a very pleasant evening in Portrush sitting in the cabin of a small sailboat with a retired policeman from Northern Ireland and a former IRA member sharing "a wee bit of whiskey" and playing old rock songs from the 70's on a couple of acoustic guitars. The only "troubles" we had that night was keeping the guitars in tune. Let's hope it stays that way.
Let us hope.

The Irish papers were reporting, in the last day or so, that one of the republican groups was planning on killing a retired police officer who has been retired for decades. No word on why this particular guy was being targeted. A part time officer was targeted a few weeks back with a bomb near her car. The bomb was found before it would detonate. The bomb was on the side of the car where the woman's child would have been sitting. Another group was firing rounds in a residential area as a show of force this weekend.

The Loyalists have been quiet this week not so much a few weeks ago.

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