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22-09-2020, 23:08
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#3106
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: UK, Australia, Europe
Boat: Custom Catamaran
Posts: 854
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects
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Originally Posted by sailrjim
FYI All:
Portsmouth Boating Center (Portsmouth, VA) recently modified width of travel lift to 27 ft. width. They do not allow DIY. Also, I recently received a quote of just under USD1000 to lift a 9500 lbs. boat high and at 40 ft. reach by mobile crane, one way, also in Portsmouth, private property.
Jim
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Wowsers.. and I baulk at them charging me £250 each way to travelift / crawler a 42ft cat. And no DIY? Second boats are a lot cheaper (and plentiful) in the US, but ongoing servicing wise - you guys really get screwed out of your cash!
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23-09-2020, 04:32
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#3107
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Boat: TRT 1200
Posts: 6,867
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects
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Originally Posted by ausnp84
Wowsers.. and I baulk at them charging me £250 each way to travelift / crawler a 42ft cat. And no DIY? Second boats are a lot cheaper (and plentiful) in the US, but ongoing servicing wise - you guys really get screwed out of your cash!
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Depends where in the US. We pay $8.00 per foot for haul, block and launch. $5.00 per foot per month for time on the hard and DIY is ok except below the waterline, and their labor charges are very fair.
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23-09-2020, 05:35
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#3108
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: UK, Australia, Europe
Boat: Custom Catamaran
Posts: 854
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects
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Originally Posted by smj
Depends where in the US. We pay $8.00 per foot for haul, block and launch. $5.00 per foot per month for time on the hard and DIY is ok except below the waterline, and their labor charges are very fair.
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Yeh fair call. Those ashore rates are good but no work below the waterline? Does that include replacing hardware or just no sanding / repainting AF?
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23-09-2020, 05:50
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#3109
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: ABC's
Boat: Prout Snowgoose 35
Posts: 1,756
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects
People in the UK often think USA is cheap and that we get a raw deal in Europe, but many things are actually cheaper in Europe. Rigging is one example, sails/sailmaking is another ($2000 more for my genoa in USA vs UK with the same organisation). their yards seem much more restrictive too.
Did anyone see the latest Sail Life episode where he says his slip is €200 per year. Crazy low price.
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23-09-2020, 05:54
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#3110
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: UK, Australia, Europe
Boat: Custom Catamaran
Posts: 854
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects
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Originally Posted by mikedefieslife
People in the UK often think USA is cheap and that we get a raw deal in Europe, but many things are actually cheaper in Europe. Rigging is one example, sails/sailmaking is another ($2000 more for my genoa in USA vs UK with the same organisation). their yards seem much more restrictive too.
Did anyone see the latest Sail Life episode where he says his slip is €200 per year. Crazy low price.
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Purchase-wise, in the second hand market the US is hands down cheaper and has plenty more boats and boat options available. Ongoing costs though you’re right, the UK is cheap! Guys on here regularly quote $10-15k for new rigging... in the UK I’m yet to pay more than £4k!
(Who did you use for sails btw?)
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23-09-2020, 12:31
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#3111
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: ABC's
Boat: Prout Snowgoose 35
Posts: 1,756
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects
My rigging was about €3000, 8mm 19x1, but the short mast helps keeps the price down.
I used OneSails for my main. Vantage 1 filmless laminate (pic attahced). I've been getting quotes now for the genoa.
Probably would have been better rolled rather than folded for shipping, but the creases were gone after hoisting.
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24-09-2020, 10:47
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#3112
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Norfolk, VA
Boat: 46’ Trimar Trimaran MK II
Posts: 13
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects
engine hours (total): 1000
length overall (LOA): 46
make / manufacturer: Trimaran, maccoullard design
model name / number: MK II
propulsion type: sail
year manufactured: 1971
I never expected to part with her this way, but I am about upside down and I can no longer carry the cost of maintenance and slip fees. I have owned her for 21 years and its a great boat. If you have been out on the lower bay you probably have seen her.
A USCG Documented Vessel, launched in 1971, she is constructed of marine plywood and a fiberglass skin. Previously powered by two 25 hp outboards raised and lowered on sleds by mechanical advantage, with one in forward and one in reverse she can pivot on her axis. Center Cockpit, Ketch rigged, 46' long not counting the bowsprit and 22' wide with 3 cockpits for lots of deck space and two trampolines between the fore decks. lots of room for everybody.
Down below, she sleeps 5, 2 doubles and a v-berth. Aft is the Captains quarters with a double berth. Honduran mahogany cabinets and trim.
Make Me An Offer I Can Accept.
The outboards have been removed.
Two new motors will make this sweet. (approximately $5,000 each) Also needs a long overdue bottom cleaning and painting (approximately $2500 including haulout by crane).
All in all a great boat for someone who looks like me 20 years ago. More money than sense, lots of energy and a love for the water.
I no longer can keep her. Just reduced from $35,000 to $25,000. Make Me An Offer
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24-09-2020, 16:16
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#3113
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Norfolk, VA
Boat: 46’ Trimar Trimaran MK II
Posts: 13
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects
I never expected to part with her this way, but I am about upside down and I can no longer carry the cost of maintenance and slip fees. I have owned her for 21 years and its a great boat. If you have been out on the lower bay you probably have seen her.
A USCG Documented Vessel, launched in 1971, she is constructed of marine plywood and a fiberglass skin. Previously powered by two 25 hp outboards raised and lowered on sleds by mechanical advantage, with one in forward and one in reverse she can pivot on her axis. Center Cockpit, Ketch rigged, 46' long not counting the bowsprit and 22' wide with 3 cockpits for lots of deck space and two trampolines between the fore decks. lots of room for everybody.
Down below, she sleeps 5, 2 doubles and a v-berth. Aft is the Captains quarters with a double berth. Honduran mahogany cabinets and trim.
Make Me An Offer I Can Accept.
The outboards have been removed.
Two new motors will make this sweet. (approximately $5,000 each) Also needs a long overdue bottom cleaning and painting (approximately $2500 including haulout by crane).
All in all a great boat for someone who looks like me 20 years ago. More money than sense, lots of energy and a love for the water.
I no longer can keep her. Just reduced from $35,000 to $25,000. Make Me An Offer
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06-10-2020, 02:19
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#3115
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2014
Boat: Shuttleworth Advantage
Posts: 1,819
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects
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Originally Posted by RIguy
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Remind her of her decision the minute she complains about the rolling.
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06-10-2020, 13:54
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#3116
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Boat: 34' Crowther tri sold 16' Kayak now
Posts: 5,037
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38’ Cat near Portland OR
Here’s a unique cat that has had some work done but needs some more. $35,000
https://portland.craigslist.org/nco/boa/d/vancouver-38-sailing-catamaranneeds-work/7208532575.html
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17-10-2020, 01:16
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#3117
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 201
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects
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17-10-2020, 06:13
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#3118
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Boat: 34' Crowther tri sold 16' Kayak now
Posts: 5,037
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects
It’s been on the market for awhile. Might be an ex-racing open bridgedeck cat that someone added a pod to. Those hulls are skinny like a racer.but looks overloaded now like a Hobie with a house on it. The price is right though.
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17-10-2020, 06:56
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#3119
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Panschwitz, Germany
Boat: Woods Mira 35 Catamaran
Posts: 3,566
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects
Looks nice, BUT, with that bridgedeck clearance when almost empty (See photos), not an open ocean boat.
Even inshore more for someone very minimalist.
Especially when you load her up with the usual cruising stuff, full tanks and so on.
I agree, looks like a boat which might have been an Open Deck racer previously.
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Originally Posted by purvisgs
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17-10-2020, 09:51
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#3120
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Boat: TRT 1200
Posts: 6,867
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Re: Cheap Multis and Projects
Considering it is mainly made of glass vibrators I think it may be a big hit in the nudist charter trade?
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