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Old 15-07-2021, 12:41   #331
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Okay, cool!
She didn't laugh so much but had a few thoughts:
1. People try too hard to be offended.
2. We Admirals would be happy to step through oval submarine doors if that kept the boat from falling apart.
3. Why are you looking at new boats again?

That second point got me thinking about the squared-off bulkhead door cut-outs of newer Lagoons and Leopards versus the much stronger rounded corners of older cats or something like a Privilege. When did these weaker right angles become so fashionable?
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Old 15-07-2021, 12:48   #332
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That second point got me thinking about the squared-off bulkhead door cut-outs of newer Lagoons and Leopards versus the much stronger rounded corners of older cats or something like a Privilege. When did these weaker right angles become so fashionable?
Probably around the same time Graitec did a version update to SuperStress and the panel shapes worked all of a sudden.

--note--that is a joke!!!!
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Old 15-07-2021, 12:56   #333
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If I had one of these, once they started working on it in any way, I would send a nice letter saying I dont accept any repair that does not correct keel to keel measurement and flat decks.

Its not like they can go "oh we cut your boat apart, and we acknowledge its not correctly measuring out, so we are just going to button it up and give it back" if they tried, the repair place is opeing them selves up for massive trouble.
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Old 15-07-2021, 13:39   #334
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But your wife is a Saint! No further explanation required! ;-)


I can’t argue with that!
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Old 15-07-2021, 13:57   #335
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In the water? Note the effort that Parlay and the other Panama boat went thru to assure hulls were straight upright and deck curve removed before doing bulkhead repairs that permanently set alignment.

Would at least require a diver to measure the distance between keel centerlines to assure back to design.
It is in a good shape as I understood. Not extremely deformed. They measured, evaluated and found, loosening the mast shrouds would be sufficient for this fix. (One side plywood bent, the other still straight), no need for haul out for this as the boat is in shape they found (2018 model).

That is why every boat needs an individual fix, some are more damaged than others. I am curious too, what they will do to reinforce and repair the issues.
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Old 15-07-2021, 14:12   #336
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I bet if he mounted a go pro and started a youtube channel he would get 5000 scribers real fast watching the repair.
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I bet if he mounted a go pro and started a youtube channel he would get 5000 scribers real fast watching the repair.
It is done by Annapolis Yacht Services (Lagoon dealer), I doubt it they will film, edit and publish the repairs work. It is a professional fix with Lagoon involved / supervision.

Subscribers dont like boring content, they want to see drama, fails and struggeling. [emoji12]

But maybe Lagoon makes an instructional video for the dealer network, who knows.
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Old 15-07-2021, 16:55   #338
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Old 16-07-2021, 05:50   #339
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She didn't laugh so much but had a few thoughts:
1. People try too hard to be offended.
2. We Admirals would be happy to step through oval submarine doors if that kept the boat from falling apart.
3. Why are you looking at new boats again?

That second point got me thinking about the squared-off bulkhead door cut-outs of newer Lagoons and Leopards versus the much stronger rounded corners of older cats or something like a Privilege. When did these weaker right angles become so fashionable?
Why square doors?
1) Cheaper to build. Creating rounded doors and mating trim takes longer than square
2) It's what landlubbers are used to.
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Old 16-07-2021, 06:11   #340
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Why square doors?

1) Cheaper to build. Creating rounded doors and mating trim takes longer than square

2) It's what landlubbers are used to.


You nailed it. Most modern day catamarans are designed to emulate a house rather than a seaworthy sailing vessel.
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You nailed it. Most modern day catamarans are designed to emulate a house rather than a seaworthy sailing vessel.

I think that’s probably for most large vessels across the board. Not just cats.
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I think that’s probably for most large vessels across the board. Not just cats.


I think modern monohulls have become more performance oriented than in the past?
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Why square doors?
1) Cheaper to build. Creating rounded doors and mating trim takes longer than square
2) It's what landlubbers are used to.

Never been on a Lagoon in person, but no other boat that I have been on has square doors (except for cabinets)
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Never been on a Lagoon in person, but no other boat that I have been on has square doors (except for cabinets)
Recent designs of FP are just the same, I guess other cat designs as well.
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Recent designs of FP are just the same, I guess other cat designs as well.



Square doorways are stupidly easy to build and cheap....... great where there is no structural load carried through. Corners are the natural failure point. Stresses are concentrated at the corners, and they are where failures tend to begin. Highest concentration of stress least material to bear the load. Below is an OLD but strong design with no history of any structural failure...... Note the oddly shaped doorways. You may recognize this boat. The oddly shaped doorways are governed by hull shape and the need to bear loads well.



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