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Old 16-07-2021, 10:02   #346
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Square doorways are stupidly easy to build and cheap....... great where there is no structural load carried through. Corners are the natural failure point. Stresses are concentrated at the corners, and they are where failures tend to begin. Highest concentration of stress least material to bear the load. Below is an OLD but strong design with no history of any structural failure...... Note the oddly shaped doorways. You may recognize this boat. The oddly shaped doorways are governed by hull shape and the need to bear loads well.



SOME square doors are only trimmed/finished out to appear square. If you pull back the veneer, you'll find rounded bulkhead cut outs. I doubt this is done on production boats, but it's not uncommon on custom depending on clients preference.

We're doing this at the bottom of our doors to get them flat with the floor. We cut it down 3" lower than the floor with a rounded shape, reinforce the edges, then add back core and glass to make it flush. Same process can be done above.

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Here's the new episode from Colin and they are not done yet with the refit. He does mention that he and Jamie have extensive construction backgrounds.

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Here's the new episode from Colin and they are not done yet with the refit. He does mention that he and Jamie have extensive construction backgrounds.

They are doing a good job so far. Looks good.
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They are doing a good job so far. Looks good.


Question is, will Lagoon reimburse them for their efforts?
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Question is, will Lagoon reimburse them for their efforts?

Of course they won't.... it would set a precedent.... everybody else would expect compensation also, and that could well be enough to sink the company.


The important aspect of this series is the blueprint they are establishing for repairing these boats. A blueprint other owners and repairers can expand on and improve on. What looked like a hopeless situation of massive structural failure is beginning to resolve into a manageable if difficult repair.
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Question is, will Lagoon reimburse them for their efforts?
That boat was a salvage boat that was totalled in a hurricane.
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No, the boat was sold as a salvage boat after a hurricane.
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Here's the new episode from Colin and they are not done yet with the refit. He does mention that he and Jamie have extensive construction backgrounds.

Seen the video and was actually surprised at all the dead (available storage) space behind the wall on both sides of the bulkhead.
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No, the boat was sold as a salvage boat after a hurricane.


Fair enough, what if it wasnít a salvaged boat? Should Lagoon reimburse the owners of non salvaged 450ís that have to have bulkhead repairs?
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Fair enough, what if it wasnít a salvaged boat? Should Lagoon reimburse the owners of non salvaged 450ís that have to have bulkhead repairs?
Private used original owner i think so, also depend Finacial strength of dealer
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Private used original owner i think so, also depend Finacial strength of dealer


I disagree. This catamaran has been sold as a bluewater boat, all the defective bulkheads should be rebuilt at Lagoons cost, private owner or not.
If not, why would anyone purchase a used 450 as the warranty for the bulkheads would be void. Iím guessing the used prices would plummet.
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Fair enough, what if it wasnít a salvaged boat? Should Lagoon reimburse the owners of non salvaged 450ís that have to have bulkhead repairs?
They should honor whatever warranty is in place for the boat and follow whatever law is required. Anything beyond that is "goodwill" and will be done to protect their reputation.

My hope would be that they pay to fix every 450 bulkhead and all related damage. The reality is they are a corporation that will do whatever makes sense for their shareholders.
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[QUOTE=crayiii;3447448]They should honor whatever warranty is in place for the boat and follow whatever law is required. Anything beyond that is "goodwill" and will be done to protect their reputation.



My hope would be that they pay to fix every 450 bulkhead and all related damage. The reality is they are a corporation that will do whatever makes sense for their shareholders.[/

My hope as well
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I disagree. This catamaran has been sold as a bluewater boat, all the defective bulkheads should be rebuilt at Lagoons cost, private owner or not.
Because when xx company buy and order boat have a contract we buy a boat for only private pleasure craft use,not commercial. For commercial use yacht is totally different way and contract. Lagoon don't sale boat for commercial use for that reason you have commercial shipyard, also lagoon don't have permits, design,CE mark for commercial use yacht. commercial yachts must be in Class and comply with the Commercial Yacht Code Regulations in accordance with the chosen registry,
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Lagoon will loose sales this, as they should but this is not the only model with problems. I personally know other owners of other Lagoon models who have paid out of pocket to repair major hull defects. Most of this is kept on the QT for resale of said boats.
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