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26-07-2010, 21:40
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Cost to Hire Skipper ?
Anyone have any idea how much it might cost to hire a skipper to go from
San Francisco to Hawaii? With me buying a return ticket cost of course?
Thanks
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26-07-2010, 21:48
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Eastern Tennessee
Boat: Research vessel for a university, retired now.
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I would Google "delivery captain" and start asking. They all have different rates and different methods for determining the cost. The cheapest is not going to be the best or safest. Check with your insurance company about doing this, they may have their requirements.
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26-07-2010, 22:16
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Cruising
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Get lots of references so that you can talk to previous customers of any delivery skipper that you might hire.
Not all delivery skippers are created equal, and I don't think that there is any positive correlation between what the skipper charges and the quality of the delivery crew or the state of the yacht when it arrives.
I have seen some sad delivery skippers who I would not let touch my yacht.
Good luck on finding an outstanding captain for the delivery.
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26-07-2010, 22:58
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Location: sausalito
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a downwind delivery?
I don't get it.
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26-07-2010, 23:06
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: SF Bay Area, CA, USA
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Figure 250-300 US$/day plus provisions plus plane tickets.
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26-07-2010, 23:59
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Registered User
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Location: Bay Area
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Bash
Bash I am a newborn to sailing shall we say.
scotte
thanks for the info exactly what I was looking for............ yikes $5,000 to$700 to deliver to Hawaii I don't think so. Hmmm I wonder what now?
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27-07-2010, 01:54
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: South coast of England, moving around a bit.
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Start asking around in your club amongst the more seasoned members who appear to know what they are doing. It may be that someone would welcome the adventure and would be happy to do it for the price of a ticket and food. Otherwise, learn fast
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27-07-2010, 02:24
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Devon, UK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by scotte
Figure 250-300 US$/day plus provisions plus plane tickets.
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I normally charge £120 per day which is equal to $200.
To those who think it is excessive, think a little more about the job. On watch 8 hours a day, on call 16 hours plus time spent provisioning, etc, etc. + Cost of liability insurance - would you work for what is effectively minimum wage rates?
You expect someone to do a professional job so don't complain if you have to pay a realistic rate!
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Delivering boats for a living - no more!
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27-07-2010, 03:10
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edsailing no one is complaining. I am merely stating that 21 days at $250 each day is out of my budget. I have been self employed for over 15 years so understand your point about being paid a reasonable amount. btw I do not think $ 250 per day is excessive.
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27-07-2010, 03:19
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Devon, UK
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OK, point taken. I guess you need to factor in costs like this when you take on the responsibility of boat ownership.
Personally, I would be very picky about who I give my boat to for delivery........ Check them out thoroughly!
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Delivering boats for a living - no more!
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27-07-2010, 05:24
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Join Date: May 2009
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From what I've seen of delivery captains on the ICW I'm not sure I would let some of these guys take my garbage out to the bin.
Marinas and boatyards are packed with guys calling each other Captain Bill and Captain Charlie as is they owned a boat or had a job.
Insurance is a real issue and law suits across state lines are difficult to pursue.
That said, there are lot's of great captains out there with a lot to teach you.
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27-07-2010, 06:00
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Armchair Bucketeer
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dofthesea
Anyone have any idea how much it might cost to hire a skipper to go from
San Francisco to Hawaii? With me buying a return ticket cost of course?
Thanks
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I suspect this question is founded on discovery of another facet of island life when it comes to buying a boat. Not only less choice but also higher prices than on the mainland. Can be quite annoying for Mr Google to keep throwing bargains at you - but just out of reach!
On the cheaper end of the market (at whatever size) usually not financially worthwhile to buy a long way off island - even against the higher price, simply due to the costs of making a new purchase seaworthy enough for a long(ish) voyage. Don't underestimate the additional cost & aggro from buying away from home to return with - things that could (and would) normally wait for "Later" need to be done now and from unfamilair people / suppliers = usually higher cost. Plus you don't have all your usual resources on hand from tools to freinds to transport at next to zero cost. And that's all leaving aside the buying trip(s).
The upside is that a) you get to visit all prospects in person and b) a decent chance of getting on the grapevine and finding out some useful history about the boat / the owner / his financial circumstances (about his wife , his girlfreind and depending on size of island - what he was like a school ). For some things Mr Google is no substitute
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27-07-2010, 07:22
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Location: Santa Cruz
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Its about 2200 miles, so figure $2/mile plus expenses for the captain. What about the rest of the crew? A lot depends on the size of the boat and its readiness to go offshore--for example, repacking the liferaft might be $600.
The whole delivery thing is also weather dependent. Its one thing to sail to Hawaii in the summer, and a whole lot different in the winter.
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27-07-2010, 08:06
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Florida/Alberta
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I just got a quote for moving from Spain to the Caribbean at 1.50 "per sea mile". Not sure if he meant nms or not; however assuming 150 "miles" per day in a cat, that would be about $225, so that seems in line.I had to pay the flight back, which seems reasonable.
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27-07-2010, 13:11
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Elvish meaning 'Far-Wanderer'
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Boat - Greece - Me - Michigan
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My captain charges $150/day. He has 15 transatlantic deliveries and two transpacific's. I really don't know about other areas but that's basically the going rate in the Leewards.
Also, there's a difference between a guy who's a "Captain" and is going to sail your boat to Hawaii and a delivery crew. Take it any way you want, but it's not a bad gig. Your autopilot actually sails the boat and the most work you generally do is cooking. What your actually paying for is someone who can keep their head together when S#$T hits the fan (if it does).
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