Transgender and cruising?

[Rustic Charm]

Originally Posted by boatpoker

Really !!!! You seriously need to rethink that comment.

? Why must I “seriously rethink that comment”?

I’m not in the group for obvious reasons but I frequently hear from women sailors that it’s a great place for advice.

[boatpoker]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

? Why must I “seriously rethink that comment”?

I’m not in the group for obvious reasons but I frequently hear from women sailors that it’s a great place for advice.

sigh ......

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

? Why must I “seriously rethink that comment”?



I’m not in the group for obvious reasons but I frequently hear from women sailors that it’s a great place for advice.

Manexplaining

[carlosproa]

My guess is that you go to the State Department web site, you may find some easy to spot countries that forbid LBTQ, some with capital punishment.
If you are based in the US and starting your cruise from there, I do not see too much of an issue in the Caribbean or even Mexico and Central America. If you keep a low profile you should be fine.
I would check with Muslim nations as some are quite tough on LBTQ.

[dannc]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

? Why must I “seriously rethink that comment”?

I’m not in the group for obvious reasons but I frequently hear from women sailors that it’s a great place for advice.

My respond is not a snide or sarcastic response to your question.

Your suggestion was partly right and partly wrong. Some people born men consider themselves woman and some people born women consider themselves men. Going to a women sailors group only helps a part of the population.

Later,
Dan

[Rustic Charm]

Originally Posted by dannc

My respond is not a snide or sarcastic response to your question.

Your suggestion was partly right and partly wrong. Some people born men consider themselves woman and some people born women consider themselves men. Going to a women sailors group only helps a part of the population.

Later,
Dan

Transwomen are women. That’s what people who accept trans people believe. As such I recommended her to a suitable place for friendship and advice.

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by Rumrace

Saudi Arabia executed 5 people for just being Pagan

Pro tip
Don't advertise your paganism in Saudi Arabia.

Add: please provide a link
I could not find anything about this

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by Chotu

Actually, yes, they are. The hetero couple doing pda will get in a lot of trouble in certain countries for doing just what you described.

Much better to keep things on the down low when you are traveling. You want to blend in. That’s it. It doesn’t matter what topic we are talking about, just blend in. Then you’ll have a good trip.


That’s what goboatingnow is talking about and he’s right.

Someone who is born with a combination of both genders does not need to advertise that at customs, at the store or at the marina. It’s their business and the business of their romantic partners.

That’s the key to safe, enjoyable international travel.

You keep your own biases at home and learn how to present yourself in other cultures to fit in.

I keep things to myself traveling as well. It’s important

This. ^^^^^
It's not hard.

[danstanford]

I think we need to recognize how divergent this OP's questions are from the strident cries to be recognized by some in the LGBT world. This person, as long as I could recognize did not seek affirmation or validation but rather stated their situation and asked for help.

It might help to re-frame the question to one more familiar to some of us. Imagine you were transferred to Asia, the Middle East, or indeed the other way to North America and you wanted to reach out to find enclaves of ex-pats who speak your language and enjoy customs you are familiar with.

[Simi 60]

Originally Posted by danstanford

I think we need to recognize how divergent this OP's questions are from the strident cries to be recognized by some in the LGBT world. This person, as long as I could recognize did not seek affirmation or validation but rather stated their situation and asked for help.

It might help to re-frame the question to one more familiar to some of us. Imagine you were transferred to Asia, the Middle East, or indeed the other way to North America and you wanted to reach out to find enclaves of ex-pats who speak your language and enjoy customs you are familiar with.

If those customs or behaviour were illegal in that country I wouldn't be, or if doing so, expect trouble

Personally, whenever we go to other countries we go out of our way to NOT find enclaves of "immigrants" as we want to experience something different, it's why we travel to other lands.


https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...ants-migration

[Jammer]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Again you didn’t address my point. Why is there a need to advertise your sexuality

Some nonbinary people are not able to avoid appearing to be trans due to the nature of who they are, especially on an ongoing basis, and especially in contexts where full or partial nudity is expected or necessary or where any unusual body features may lead to questioning. Think marina showers, beaches, customs/immigration, doctor's visits.


In some cases it's like asking a racially mixed couple to hide the fact that they are a racially mixed couple so that they can blend in to the local culture and avoid offending anyone.

[Jammer]

Originally Posted by Rumrace

Saudi Arabia executed 5 people for just being Pagan

It could never happen in Canada, right?


https://www.unwrittenhistories.com/t...aft-in-canada/

[Jammer]

Originally Posted by MicHughV

My experience has been that folk that are gay, trans, etc, etc, typically find other people that are the same and they tend to hang out with each other, rather than mix with the general public.

I know that in my neck of the woods, there are bars, clubs and so on, that cater to the LGBTQ crowd. While anyone is free to go there, most don't.

They do that because they don't want to get the ****** beaten out of them for being who they are, which is still a likely outcome when gay couples to straight bars and do the same things that straight people do when they are at a bar.

I imagine that worldwide, there must be similar places.

To some extent. Not everywhere.

[Rustic Charm]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Again you didn’t address my point. Why is there a need to advertise your sexuality

The subject by the op has nothing to do with sexuality. I think that’s the key you are missing. The OP asked a question about gender, not sexuality.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

The subject by the op has nothing to do with sexuality. I think that’s the key you are missing. The OP asked a question about gender, not sexuality.

Gender is a state. A state as such is not active. Sexuality is an active activity. The OP and the discussion were about activity

Last time I looked unless you advertised yourself your sexuality or gender need not be that apparent , hence assuming you avoid the stereotypes or gender displays you will therefore not attract attention

Attracting attention is part of the whole thing but it’s not a good idea everywhere.

My point was leave the “ activism or associated politics “ at home. Yes you may not be able to “ display “ yourself in a manner of your choosing but that’s not up to you.