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Old 04-01-2016, 04:12   #61
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Re: Getting Too Fat to Sail

Sailing doesn't burn calories the way more aerobic exercise... at best it's like isometric exercise... some decent stretching etc getting oneself into and out of weird positions in maintenance and perhaps a bit in sail trim or hauling by hand an anchor. And spring prep... waxing and lifting etc... all good. It's not really enough in the end I believe. But it sure beats sitting at a desk pushing a mouse and striking keys.
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Dr Aseem Malhotra an English Cardiologist has just written an excellent piece that's a good, science backed, statement about diet. Have a read, but here is an excerpt.

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the change in dietary advice in 1977 to restrict the amount of fat we were eating helped to fuel the obesity epidemic unfolding today. It’s a bold statement, but one I believe is upheld by an array of recent research.

These days I make a point of telling my patients – many of whom are coping with debilitating heart problems – to avoid anything bearing the label ‘low fat’. Better instead, I tell them, to embrace full fat dairy and other saturated fats...
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That's the secret. Live your own life by yer own rules. Still, I am astonished by all the fatties waddling around.
Hmm.... I've yet to hear....

"Hey... I think that crab is too fat, throw it back... "
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Hmm.... I've yet to hear....

"Hey... I think that crab is too fat, throw it back... "
I haven't needed to shed in many moons.
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Has anyone noticed that sharks typically do not bite fatties? I know this is not 100% accurate but my observations tell me it is 90% true.

Humm...I wonder why?

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Surf boards are to small..??



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Has anyone noticed that sharks typically do not bite fatties? I know this is not 100% accurate but my observations tell me it is 90% true.

Humm...I wonder why?

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I wonder if that observation has been correlated with the number of missing fatties?
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I sold half of my fitness center 6 years ago to go sailing. Over 20 years in the health and fitness industry I've seen lots of various named diets. If I'm ever asked my opinion I try not to complicate it ...."cut out sugar and grains" And your body will change! I hate naming diets but I have seen lots of great results when people follow the "the Paleo approach". Or check out Mark Sisson , Primal Blue Print.
Anyway its all relative, in my cruising circles I think I'm seen as the younger relatively fit guy, when I go home ( back to the gym ) I'm seen as the old relatively not fit guy......lol.
So the moral of the story is hang out with Fatter, older and poorer friends and all will be well...lol
Oh , also if they have a smaller boat than you, that would be good.


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If you think, breathe, drink, eat, and exercise health, you will exude health. If you abuse your body with dirty air, bad water, junk food, and sedentary laziness, you will look like lazy junk. To each their own.
Bad water?
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Sailing doesn't burn calories the way more aerobic exercise... at best it's like isometric exercise... some decent stretching etc getting oneself into and out of weird positions in maintenance and perhaps a bit in sail trim or hauling by hand an anchor. And spring prep... waxing and lifting etc... all good. It's not really enough in the end I believe. But it sure beats sitting at a desk pushing a mouse and striking keys.
I agree. I carry a little stepper machine that fits in the cockpit for those long watches, keeps the legs going. Without it, if ocean sailing the legs can really wither. If no room for that just use some part of the hull as a passive stepper, and do a lot of squats as well. I do situps and pushups on the afterdeck, which is actually really good when the boat is in motion and I am head to the downside, and I neglect to use the powered winches. Manual trim, reef and hoist helps for sure.
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Bad water?
You know, GMO water
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If I'm ever asked my opinion I try not to complicate it ...."cut out sugar and grains" And your body will change!
Very wise post, Dale, particularly from a fitness center owner as they normally try to push the calories in /calories out BS.

You Can't Outrun a Bad Diet!

Here is an excellent editorial from the British Journal of Sport Medicine that supports what Dale says. It even covers why Coke spends $3.3m per year advertising a false message. It is great reading.


"poor diet now generates more disease than physical inactivity, alcohol and smoking combined. "
http://m.bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/...15-094911.full

Unlike Dale, I don't wait for people to ask my opinion... I shove my opinion down their throat because I lost a mate last year. While he was dying I didn't give him my opinion because I didn't want to be like one of those people who as soon as they hear the C word they offer grandmas home soup recipe. I didn't tell him how to find some of the modern medical research. I should have.
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So what is it about sailing that gets me slimmer...
You are not slimmer, you appear as such because you are standing taller with your head back, taking in the sweet smelling breeze. Lol. It is perception..just like how you feel more buff when you just left the gym.
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Since we are talking diet/health as opposed to sailing now, I will add that I just lost 40 pounds this past year. Low carb, high protein mostly. Cut out the empty calories like sweets, sugary drinks, etc. Basically just being more sane with what you eat and when you eat it. Started out very low carb- no bread, pasta, rice, etc. for a few months and dropped 30 pounds in about 4 months. Kept that off while getting back to normal-ish foods (still keeping sweets at a minimum)..kept if off for 3-4 months then started another diet cycle. By now, the "diet" cycle is easy because it has become pretty much my norm. I eat lots of egg whites, chicken, fish, and broccoli. All carbs are whole grains, etc and all consumed before afternoon. No carbs late. I also started exercising again about 4 days a week. I don't miss sweets anymore..when I see them around the house I think to myself "is that really so tasty that I cannot walk past?"..if the answer is "Yes, it is awesome", then I take a small portion to get a good taste. The answer is generally "No" though..and I leave it be.
I still eat pizza and an occassional burger, and have to have a rare steak every now and again, but I don't overdo it on anything. All things in moderation. The holidays have come and gone and I have maintained without issue. I feel 100 times better than I did before..and my wife appreciates the fact that I don't snore anymore.
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Re: Getting Too Fat to Sail

I am surprised how few cruisers swim off the back of the boat in a clean anchorage on a daily basis.. maybe one in five boats in the Caribe.. one in twenty in the EU..
Beats the **** outa going for an amble and works every muscle in the body..
Have the swim before the go ashore shower.. 😃
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