Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 11-02-2019, 22:23   #16
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: PLC Venezuela
Boat: Caliber 33
Posts: 79
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

The offshore islands from Tortuga westwards including Los Roques are not frequented by the pirates. They operate in small open boats from the coastal towns and the islands are too far out for them to reach.


If you have an American flag or passport you need a visa and you could run into deep caca from the authorities - even detention and confiscation of vessel.



You are supposed to check in at the Guard post on Gran Roque when visiting Roques and have to pay a park visiting permit. However it is a large archipelago, easy to get lost in and the natives are friendly. There is no water, fuel, or supplies to be had, but plenty of fish and lobster.
Cash dollars are very acceptable everywhere.


Las Aves atolls are great. There is nobody on Barlovento and only a small friendly guard post on Sotavento.


The situation on the mainland is very tense right now but but there could very likely be a major improvement in the near future, so don't rule it out if you are not in a hurry.



For a description of a couple of recent trips in the area read "Desperate Deliveries" by Cris Robinson available on Amazon e-books and paperbacks.
OndinePLC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-02-2019, 11:51   #17
Registered User

Join Date: May 2018
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 71
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

I have no experience but I do recall that Sailing La Vagabond went to Los Roques in their original leg (2015?) and didn't experience any issues, not even sure they checked in.

Having said that the conditions have deteriorated significantly since then. just a point of information if you haven't seen those episodes assume it is much worse plus they were Aussies as well...

I am in Risk management and to me it would definitely not be a go but this as others have said is based on your risk tolerance which would have to be bloody freak'n high to go to Venezuela right now!
TriggerHappy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-02-2019, 12:23   #18
Registered User
 
Stu Jackson's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Cowichan Bay, BC (Maple Bay Marina)
Posts: 9,730
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

Quote:
Originally Posted by denverd0n View Post
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>


I have friends who were living and working in Iran right before the overthrow of the Shah. Everything seemed okay -- until suddenly it wasn't. Foreigners there seemed to be reasonably safe -- until suddenly they weren't. Luckily for them, they were actually in England visiting friends when everything went sideways. Others were not so lucky. A Canadian couple they knew, who lived next door to them, has never been heard from since.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

So true. I lived there from April 1975 to August 31, 1979. By the time we got to Brussels a week later after a short holiday in Greece, it had started. No one knew, even the CIA and we had hosted Richard Helms at one of our parties.
One of my ex-wife's friends borrow her wedding dress, married an Iranian and was never seen again. Nor was the dress.
One of the hostages was the superintendent of the Tehran American School who I knew from working on building a new heating system there.

Nasty stuff when it hits the fan.
__________________
Stu Jackson
Catalina 34 #224 (1986) C34IA Secretary
Cowichan Bay, BC, SR/FK, M25, Rocna 10 (22#) (NZ model)
Stu Jackson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20-02-2019, 13:14   #19
Registered User

Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 987
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

I don't think you can compare the situation in Brasil with Venezuela.
250224 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-02-2019, 15:53   #20
cat herder, extreme blacksheep

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
Images: 56
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

this is from a friend who is living on isla margarita. she can no longer walk due to malnutrition. her family is dying off around her due to malnutrition. she can do nothing to help her own family.
this is real and desperate situation. her long rant was removed from fb as i tried to copy it for posting to the planet to read. i removed her name from this post i found by her so she wont experience repercussions. yes all communications are monitored.
if you believe the situation in vene to be fake or invented, please donot fall into that. it is real. the woman is in her 40s and unable to walk due to malnutrition. her mother is younger than am i and unable to get around due to malnutrition.
wanna cruise venezuela?? borders are closed except where vene citizens cross into colombia and brasil for much needed relief foodstuffs, aka bags of lentils, beans, rice. there are no medicines no supplies no hospitals. no nothing. is only becoming worse. the inflation rate is 10 million percent.
Quote:
XXXXXXXX X XXXXXXX
Yesterday at 9:02 AM
JUST IN. They have confirmed that our air space and maritime space from and to Aruba, Curacao and Bonaire have been “closed”.

We get 80% of our black market items from these islands. They closed all the ways to get the humanitarian help in the country...and black market food and meds...they are going to starve us all to death here. The island is already in big trouble, with shelves empty all over.

Our friend XXXXXXX’s ships stop in Curacao before coming here...so do the cargo planes. ������ Dear Lord have mercy. ��
zeehag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-02-2019, 01:56   #21
Registered User
 
daletournier's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Australia
Boat: Catalina 470
Posts: 4,578
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

Quote:
Originally Posted by zeehag View Post
this is from a friend who is living on isla margarita. she can no longer walk due to malnutrition. her family is dying off around her due to malnutrition. she can do nothing to help her own family.
this is real and desperate situation. her long rant was removed from fb as i tried to copy it for posting to the planet to read. i removed her name from this post i found by her so she wont experience repercussions. yes all communications are monitored.
if you believe the situation in vene to be fake or invented, please donot fall into that. it is real. the woman is in her 40s and unable to walk due to malnutrition. her mother is younger than am i and unable to get around due to malnutrition.
wanna cruise venezuela?? borders are closed except where vene citizens cross into colombia and brasil for much needed relief foodstuffs, aka bags of lentils, beans, rice. there are no medicines no supplies no hospitals. no nothing. is only becoming worse. the inflation rate is 10 million percent.
Very sad.
daletournier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-02-2019, 02:12   #22
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Back in Montt.
Boat: Westerly Sealord
Posts: 8,217
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

Has this thread been 'edited'?

Or is there a similar thread in a parallel universe?

Meanwhile... this remains a good source of Ven news... well as good as any

https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/World+Ne...rica/Venezuela

Use the filters between your ears to decide what you believe..

Me? I've cancelled my hols in Caracas... they say Kabul is nice in the spring.....
__________________
A little bit about Chile can be found here https://www.docdroid.net/bO63FbL/202...anchorages-pdf
El Pinguino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-02-2019, 08:19   #23
Registered User
 
senormechanico's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
Posts: 7,191
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

Maduro is insisting to the world that there is no problem and is trying to turn away any outside food and supplies.
Some military officials are refusing to obey orders to turn away help.
Others, not so much.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...an-border.html


https://www.wsj.com/articles/venezue...er-11550836800


And you want to cruise there? Ack !
__________________
An evil man will burn his nation to the ground to rule over the ashes.


Sun Tzu
senormechanico is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-02-2019, 08:44   #24
cat herder, extreme blacksheep

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: furycame alley , tropics, mexico for now
Boat: 1976 FORMOSA yankee clipper 41
Posts: 18,967
Images: 56
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

https://www.noonsite.com/Countries/V...rGH6mncGozsiIE
zeehag is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-02-2019, 08:58   #25
cruiser

Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 106
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019



I wonder does Joseph Goebbels still working there.
Gruz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-02-2019, 11:23   #26
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2008
Boat: Island Packet 380 - Aspen
Posts: 83
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

Zeehag has it correct (Noonsite link posted above). The Russians are working with Venezuela and keeping the sea lanes CLOSED near the ABC islands. Stay very far away from those areas if you value your vessel (and life). Just sayin'



Here is the link again: https://www.noonsite.com/Countries/V...rGH6mncGozsiIE
SVAspen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-02-2019, 12:54   #27
Senior Cruiser
 
skipmac's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29 49.16 N 82 25.82 W
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 16,306
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

Visiting a place with a high crime rate like Brasil or Venezuela (just to mention two that have been brought up in this discussion) is like playing Russian roulette. You might play several times and win but you could end up a loser at any time. Are the potential downsides to losing worth the risk of playing the game?

I have a very old friend who is Venezuelan. She has lived in Houston for many years but of course still has a lot of family and friends in Venezuela.

She has not gone back to visit for a few years due to the crime and risk of violence. She absolutely would not go now. That's good enough for me.
__________________
The water is always bluer on the other side of the ocean.
Sometimes it's necessary to state the obvious for the benefit of the oblivious.
Rust is the poor man's Loctite.
skipmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-02-2019, 13:02   #28
Registered User

Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Toronto area when not travelling
Boat: Nonsuch 30
Posts: 1,678
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

No comparison between the situations in Brazil and Venezuela now. Someone considering a visit to Venezuela today must have both Yemen and Syria on the bucket list too.
__________________
Have taken on the restoration of the first Nonsuch, which was launched in 1978. Needs some deck work, hull compounding, and a bit of new gear.
AiniA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27-02-2019, 13:08   #29
Registered User
 
Sand crab's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Gig Harbor, WA
Boat: 34' Crowther tri sold 16' Kayak now
Posts: 5,067
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

Where is the OP from?
__________________
Slowly going senile but enjoying the ride.
Sand crab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2019, 01:54   #30
Registered User

Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Caribbean
Boat: Leopard 45 (yet to come)
Posts: 76
Re: Cruising Venezuela 2019

Sea venture, its up to you how to bit the dust. Seems that you will cause another headline how unsafe sailing really is. So have fun as a tourist in a civil war.
Nelsons is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cruising, Venezuela

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Saba 50: 2019 Saba Ordered! CalmSeasQuest Fountaine Pajot 68 22-12-2020 05:51
Caribbean Cruising 2018/2019 season - good or bad idea? jimp1234 General Sailing Forum 21 10-05-2019 06:33
Want To Buy: Coastal Cruising Catamaran in SE Asia for 2019 jsmbythebay Boats For Sale and Wanted 2 01-06-2018 10:01
Cruising Venezuela ? holmek General Sailing Forum 7 17-07-2016 09:53
Finding the monohull family cruiser for ARC 2019 tob Monohull Sailboats 27 25-01-2015 03:31

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 22:23.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.