Ran tan II. Lost keel

[zeehag]

hahaha friend of mine teaches the boys english and she is on board daily i can touch it if i want to. and a friend does the underwater welding for that fleet when they need same. these are some awesome good folks. now where is my tuna.....

[Cpt Pat]

So another stuck on keel fell off. I'll give my 1963 boat with its encapsulated keel a hug tonight.

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by Cpt Pat

So another stuck on keel fell off. I'll give my 1963 boat with its encapsulated keel a hug tonight.

It is a little naive to call Ran Tan's keel "stuck on", being that it was a canting keel. Quite different from your encapsulated lump of lead (or iron or whatever) in structure, intent and above all, performance. This was, after all, a cutting edge race boat.

To me, this is a quite different case than when a bolted on keel parts from a lightly built production cruiser. To be honest, I'm not so keen on canting keels, but there have been enough successful ones that one must admit that they can be safely designed and executed. Not on my budget, though!

I hope that they can salvage Ran Tan (weird name, that) and we can learn where the failure point was.

Jim

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Cpt Pat

So another stuck on keel fell off. I'll give my 1963 boat with its encapsulated keel a hug tonight.

I have always preceded my encapsulated lead full keelers myself . All have been old school offshore racers . The islander and this defender are both morc boats. The Spencer was just a long and lean .

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

It is a little naive to call Ran Tan's keel "stuck on", being that it was a canting keel. Quite different from your encapsulated lump of lead (or iron or whatever) in structure, intent and above all, performance. This was, after all, a cutting edge race boat.

To me, this is a quite different case than when a bolted on keel parts from a lightly built production cruiser. To be honest, I'm not so keen on canting keels, but there have been enough successful ones that one must admit that they can be safely designed and executed. Not on my budget, though!

I hope that they can salvage Ran Tan (weird name, that) and we can learn where the failure point was.

Jim

agreed the canting keel is considerably different than our full lead encapsulated but unlike the canting keel ours won't fall off :-):-)

and it appears that the Ran Tan 2 is being salvaged.

[chouliha]

Originally Posted by newhaul

agreed the canting keel is considerably different than our full lead encapsulated but unlike the canting keel ours won't fall off :-):-)

and it appears that the Ran Tan 2 is being salvaged.

Being Salvaged? Where did you get that info?

[GordMay]

Not exactly a cruising hull form.

[Pete7]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Not exactly a cruising hull form.

Well they are moving that way slowly as those out dated encapsulated keels really aren't very popular anymore If people wanted them they would make them.

Pete

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by chouliha

Being Salvaged? Where did you get that info?

considering all of the available information one would come to the conclusion that they are going to at least attempt to salvage the vessel. You said yourself that you are in contact with the owner .
The items that lead to the belief an attempt will be made are
1) they did not scuttle the vessel as commonly done when abandoning a vessel so as to not create a hazard to navigation.
2) they are tracking the hulk.
3) the vessels cost says insurance would finance the attempt so as to minimize their exposure.

These observations would lead from a maritime savage company standpoint that an attempt to salvage would happen .

[JPA Cate]

I understand where you're coming from with that, newhaul.

My doubts come from the fact that it was a looong way offshore. It will take the rescue ship 5 more days to get to Mazatlan. It would be nice to know what failed. Apparently, such keels have a water-tight nacelle where the canting mechanism lives.

Ann

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by Pete7

Well they are moving that way slowly as those out dated encapsulated keels really aren't very popular anymore If people wanted them they would make them.

Pete

Well now, if people could just see them more often, then they'd certainly appreciate them more! Now I ask you, is it not a work of art? Oh, and they don't all perform all that BAD... AND as an added bonus I fear no kelp bed or forest of cab pots!


OK, momentary thread drift and shameless plug for the classics over now...

[DumnMad]

Petersen - who was with the crew as recently as 10 days ago - was researching retrieval methods but said it was unlikely Ran Tan could be salvaged because of how far from land she was.

"The boat won't sink because it's made of carbon and foam. It'll just float and stay upright for a while before eventually rolling over," owner Brian Petersen said.

"It'll drift in the North Equatorial Current until it runs up against a coral reef ... slowly chewed into a thousand million bits. That'll be the end of it."

[fxykty]

Originally Posted by DumnMad

Petersen - who was with the crew as recently as 10 days ago - was researching retrieval methods but said it was unlikely Ran Tan could be salvaged because of how far from land she was.

"The boat won't sink because it's made of carbon and foam. It'll just float and stay upright for a while before eventually rolling over," owner Brian Petersen said.

"It'll drift in the North Equatorial Current until it runs up against a coral reef ... slowly chewed into a thousand million bits. That'll be the end of it."

Gosh, don’t let any environmentalists hear about all that plastic going into the water to be eaten by innocent turtles and birds.

I am very surprised that there isn’t a requirement to salvage the hull to prevent a mess but I suppose if it isn’t within a country’s borders then there’s no rules and no one to enforce them? If it runs aground somewhere I guess then they can go after the owner or the insurance company?

Where’s Sea Shepherd when you need them?

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by fxykty

Gosh, don’t let any environmentalists hear about all that plastic going into the water to be eaten by innocent turtles and birds.

I am very surprised that there isn’t a requirement to salvage the hull to prevent a mess but I suppose if it isn’t within a country’s borders then there’s no rules and no one to enforce them? If it runs aground somewhere I guess then they can go after the owner or the insurance company?

Where’s Sea Shepherd when you need them?

At their homeport here in the san juans in Washington State

[zeehag]

the new zealand crew will be in mazatlan tonight at 1930 aboard azteca tuna ship.