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Old 04-08-2017, 12:25   #46
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.6.22

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Every day that passes, I screw my head against the walls because I am not able to program. So I have to accept that this regression of OpenCPN will remain a boards are OpenCPN regression.

That said, thank you Transmitterdam for your personalized advice.
Obviously, these tips are difficult to offer to alpha or beta users and even to experienced users.

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Gilletarom,

It is not a simple matter of programming. There are hundreds of different screen sizes using OpenCPN. I think it is nearly impossible to have a programming solution that automatically works the best for each and every user and every possible computer configuration. And you have to admit that NMEA debugging is not something we are doing every day. At least I hope not.

There is another idea you can try without editing the opencpn.ini file. You can try this yourself and tell me if it works.

1) Open the options->connections dialog.
2) Click the NMEA debug check box.
3) Find the NMEA debug window and change its size by dragging the lower right corner until it is almost at the lower right of the chart window.
4) Close the NMEA debug window.
5) Close the options-connections dialog by clicking OK.
6) Close OpenCPN and restart it.
7) Open the options->connections dialog.
8) Click the NMEA debug check box.

See if OpenCPN remembered the new size of the debug window. Now it should be much bigger than before but it will be in the center of the screen behind the options dialog box. O should remember this new size every time you open the NMEA debug window.

Every day I curse some programmer who did something stupid. For example, Microsoft Word programmers think that when I try to highlight text by starting in the middle of a word that I really meant to highlight from the beginning of the word and forces the selection to be at the beginning of the word. But even though I know exactly what I am doing they try to "improve" the user experience by doing exactly what I did not want.
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.6.22

TDan

Take a look at github master for an alternate solution. The user size/pos is honored. But if the Log window should be totally obscured by the options dialog, we move the log to the left as Hakan's suggestion.

Works for me.

See any downside risk?

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Old 04-08-2017, 12:37   #48
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.6.22

Who is using VDR or the log option?
Somebody who wants to analyze or use NMEA data streams.
Not a novice user.

I don't see any issue for the one coming to OpenCPN and starting to use it.

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Old 04-08-2017, 13:05   #49
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.6.22

I've been experiencing repeated crashes when zooming out from a location in Tonga.

I'm using a touch-pad and zooming with a two-finger touch.

CM93 chart group only was active at the time.

Crash reports sent.
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Old 04-08-2017, 14:56   #50
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.6.22

Dave.. TDan..
This change is very good on my Windows screen. The default pos is not for me but now are my desired, still saved, pos and size reused on next occasion.
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.6.22

I haven't tried it yet but I think it will be ok.
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Old 04-08-2017, 18:33   #52
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TDan

Take a look at github master for an alternate solution. The user size/pos is honored. But if the Log window should be totally obscured by the options dialog, we move the log to the left as Hakan's suggestion.

Works for me.

See any downside risk?

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Dave,

Have a look at options.cpp line 5141 and see if there is a typo in that line.

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if(NMEALogWindow::Get().GetTTYWindow()-IsShown())
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Dan...

Yes, a typo. Fixed.
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.6.22

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TDan

Take a look at github master for an alternate solution. The user size/pos is honored. But if the Log window should be totally obscured by the options dialog, we move the log to the left as Hakan's suggestion.

Works for me.

See any downside risk?

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The window still opens behind other windows. This is not the way a software should work. Think about it again and please come back with a better solution.

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The window still opens behind other windows. This is not the way a software should work. Think about it again and please come back with a better solution.

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Gerhard,

It is supposed to open behind the options window. Most screens don't have enough room to open both side by side. So behind is the preferred choice. You have to fiddle with the options settings to change NMEA connections. So covering up the options window requires the user to manually move it out of the way to do anything productive.

Do you actually use any of these features? If you did you would not be saying such things I think.
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Gerhard,

It is supposed to open behind the options window. Most screens don't have enough room to open both side by side. So behind is the preferred choice. You have to fiddle with the options settings to change NMEA connections. So covering up the options window requires the user to manually move it out of the way to do anything productive.

Do you actually use any of these features? If you did you would not be saying such things I think.
I guess you know very well that is ******** what you are writing here. Otherwise you are new to computers and software.
In my own version the NMEA Debug Window pops up in front of all other window as it should and I use it very often. A hidden window is useless.

Formerly I owned a business for software. When one of my programers wanted to tell me such things he got immediately fired...

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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.6.22

The NMEA debug window is still fine.
It's opened behind but beside the Options windows as desired for just this window. Now I can change a connection and see the result without rearranging the windows. If I want the debug window up front it's just to click on it.
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.6.22

I tried multiple "dumb" ideas with the present master branch. Each time O corrected me and put the debug window where it was easily seen. I think is issue can be closed.
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.6.22

The debug window is correct on top. Somes seems to have problems with their computer!
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.6.22

I found something not working:- when you click on an icon the turn yellow and
the windows for showing the position does not pop-up like before. This in ver. 4.6.22.
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