Surviving World War Three at Sea

[toddster8]

I always thought it was a bit weird... the main fallout shelter for our town was inside the big hydroelectric dam. Now... what possible object within a hundred miles would be the obvious target for a nuclear bomb...?

Years later, I heard that according to the simulation wonks, if we (or "the enemy") were trying to maximize civilian deaths from fallout, bombs would be detonated in a modeled pattern, not aimed at specific physical targets. But who knows if the generals think like the gamer geeks do?

[Lepke]

I have a modified geiger counter I can control the clicking unseen. Specifically to upset people that worry about things they can't control.

I have a boat to get away from all of that.

[MarkSF]

"Years later, I heard that according to the simulation wonks, if we (or "the enemy") were trying to maximize civilian deaths from fallout, bombs would be detonated in a modeled pattern, not aimed at specific physical targets. But who knows if the generals think like the gamer geeks do?"

There are more than enough weapons to do both. Many times.

[Pelagic]

Can't remember if this was discussed before.
Assuming that ALL major nuclear weapon countries were triggered into releasing the nukes at opposing continents....
1....Would that dramatically change the wind and weather pattern?
2.....if so, Is there a theoretical model for this?

[sailorboy1]

Thinking about it a little:

I hope I go fast and quick and don't even know THE BIG ONE happened! The rest of you can talk about plans for how you are going to suffer for a longtime till you meet your end all you want!

[Cpt Pat]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Can't remember if this was discussed before.
Assuming that ALL major nuclear weapon countries were triggered into releasing the nukes at opposing continents....
1....Would that dramatically change the wind and weather pattern?
2.....if so, Is there a theoretical model for this?

There could be dramatic long term climatic effects: nuclear winter.

I haven't seen any models for short term local weather effects. I presume they would be minimal. The amount of thermal energy released from the simultaneous detonation of all of the weapons in both the US and Russian arsenals is still small compared to a single hurricane or major volcanic eruption. The people who surmise the entire earth would be destroyed from a nuclear war don't have a good sense of scale of how enormously energetic natural phenomenon can be -- which the Earth just shrugs off and absorbs. The Mt. St. Helens eruption, which was a rather small "class 5" eruption on a scale of 8, released 24 megatons of thermal energy (about half the size of the largest nuclear bomb ever detonated), 7 of which was a direct result of the blast. This is equivalent to 1,600 times the size of the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima (U.S. Geological Survey).

The nuclear strategists WANT you to believe that you wouldn't stand any chance of survival. That's because they have premeditatively sacrificed you as a form of deterrence.

[Pelagic]

Thanks Pat,
It is the short term effects from the Thermal release that I was curious about

[Rudderless]

There's a guy near here who's got an underground complex near here that consists of mainly (or solely) of buried schoolbuses as a shelter. Oddly enough, it's downwind of one of our nuclear generation stations. I think there's a yearly tour available and I've always wanted to check it out.

[capngeo]

I'm stealing the biggest, fastest, best maintained sailboat I can find and heading to the Everglades... plenty food, few people, and lots of bugs.... er I mean gunk holes

[toddster8]

Um... what's the draft on that big fast sailboat?

[SV THIRD DAY]

But is life worth living without Mexican Street Tacos anyway....You save yourself, but for what?

[Sea Q]

I don't think it would be an all out nuke war
But the devastation from even a couple of nukes would effect everyone world wide for years.

[capngeo]

I'm stealing the biggest, fastest, best maintained sailboat I can find and heading to the Everglades... plenty food, few people, and lots of bugs.... er I mean gunk holes

[model 10]

Originally Posted by SV THIRD DAY

But is life worth living without Mexican Street Tacos anyway....You save yourself, but for what?

Some people believe that global air flows from the ITCZ's towards the poles and then up, and then around again. So, living down in the ITCZ's will have better air quality and, they have street taco's.

[Delancey]

From the movie Strange Brew, enjoy!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s-K990t7qFM