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Old 28-06-2020, 13:39   #76
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@David Mathis Trust me - a sailboat on the ICW will use a LOT of fuel! Hardly any sailing except for the big bays.
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Old 28-06-2020, 15:02   #77
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This is going to be a big year for RVs and boats.
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Old 28-06-2020, 16:23   #78
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How much fuel the boat burns depends, basically, on:


- how big the engine is (this is somewhat related to boat size),
- how fast one goes.


The raw figure is 200 grams of diesel per horse power, per hour.


E.g. Our engine is 13 hp, pushing along at 4.2 kts we burn 1 liter per hour. Our craft is 25ft LWL and displaces 3 tonnes.



Moving slower (saving fuel) we will need some 20 liters of fuel to move on by about 100 miles. Say 10 liters a day to move 50 miles (sea miles).


Not too bad given what an average SUV burns on the highway?


Summary: fuel cost is notable, but not prohibitive.


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Old 01-07-2020, 15:57   #79
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The teak decks on that boat are toast. No wonder the guy is trying to unload it. (The rest of the boat looks gorgeous, granted.)

If anyone would like a sense of what a job removing teak decks would be, have a read of ttex's ongoing thread:
https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...ck-225756.html

Best of luck, Liveaboard Papasail,
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Old 01-07-2020, 16:12   #80
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I think yours has been the best reply yet... "just the facts" was what I was looking for. I agree with your perspective... people are ready for it to be over when it's really just getting started.

Thank you for lending perspective in your world... it helps!
*I just don't get why people confuse good assessments with doom-saying. Getting real ultimately helps you get more out of life!

P.S. I had to kedge, but I'm off that "personal shoal" and steady as she goes!

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Old 01-07-2020, 16:30   #81
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Wow Chris!!!

I empathize, and am also grateful for what you said.... I get it.
I got knocked down the day I posted, but my keel has righted me
You have a new sailing friend!

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Old 01-07-2020, 17:12   #82
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in the end every cruiser who heads off, no matter what the planned route and method is, comes down to how comfortable they are with their assumptions
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in the end every cruiser who heads off, no matter what the planned route and method is, comes down to how comfortable they are with their assumptions
Or, how comfortable your rescuers may be.
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I have no idea of the level, or if, the satire level might or might not be
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BTW, there's a guy here that is selling his Westsail 32. I just got a text about it.

Let me know if you are interested and I'll get more info. I believe the price is near $20K. The boat is in great condition

He's a CF Member also

A Westsail 32 can be a liveaboard boat AND a sail round the world boat!
Hi, would be interested in more detals on the estsail 32 in V Beach.Thanks
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Ho Papasail,

The general tone of your post tends to indicate that your head's in a bad way and that you badly need to get a new slant on life before it gets any worse. In my opinion your only hope is to buy a boat and go cruising whatever it takes.

The problem with living in the same environment as your downers is that even if you get your mind to wander off into a more benign place something in the bad place will drag you back into it. Remember Michael, "Just when I thought I was out they dragged me back in."

By getting yourself onto a boat, throwing off the mooring lines, hoisting the rag, and heading off - north, south, east, or west it doesn't matter, you transport yourself into an entirely different environment where you are not being constantly reminded of the trials and problems that got your head into a mess in the first place and are consequently much more likely to enjoy a healing experience.

Get a boat and go mate.
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Dude, your views and opinions are definitively yours! That is how you feel. They are justified to you. Accept it. Stop kicking yourself and shoulding all over your new life. This is how it starts for everyone. Your first boat doesn't matter. Think teenagers first car. It's just the boat you used to learn how to "drive". Keep the cost way below your expected budget, get in the know, make your next boat decision based on the boating you like. Also try to buy said cheap POS you learn to love like a stray dog, in a place you want to be. Your paradise.
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Dude, your views and opinions are definitively yours! That is how you feel. They are justified to you. Accept it. Stop kicking yourself and shoulding all over your new life. This is how it starts for everyone. Your first boat doesn't matter. Think teenagers first car. It's just the boat you used to learn how to "drive". Keep the cost way below your expected budget, get in the know, make your next boat decision based on the boating you like. Also try to buy said cheap POS you learn to love like a stray dog, in a place you want to be. Your paradise.
How did it take me THIS LONG to get a kick out of your boat name??? Ha ha ha.

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How did it take me THIS LONG to get a kick out of your boat name??? Ha ha ha.

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Raver, no. Paramedic, basically the same thing... Lots of flashing lights, drugs, and indecent behavior.
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Assumed the boat is fit, I would find a place where I could anchor long term - a place with easy access to the shore by dinghy.


I am not into slips and berths as avoiding slip and berthing costs was part of my way to go 'everywhere' at a very reasonable cost. A slip is comfort, we get used to one quickly, and it adds up month on month - making the kitty empty in the spring. Exactly when one would like to go cruising..

This^^^^^^^^^

Buying a bigger boat and anchoring away has saved us $10,000 plus/ year in marina fees (the main reason the PO was near giving her away)
Buying a bigger boat allows us to carry 6 to 12mths of supplies - we will survive the Covid Zombie Apocalypse as we rarely need to walk amongst the dirt people.
It also allows us to carry that large tender and outboard so we park the big boat and do our resupply in the small boat, even if 20 miles away.

A smaller boat would have us more reliant on land and its associated expense.
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