New Visa laws for Schengan Europe

[hoppy]

Originally Posted by CarinaPDX

Hoppy-

That is a surprise. I spent the winter of 98-99 in Göteborg and knew a Swede who arranged to move out just before the year was up just so as to not fall into that trap. (He had been buying-fixing up-selling distressed property, and sold the house out from under for business purposes.) I wonder if it is different if one person is not a citizen, or perhaps you had an amicable agreement rather than going to court?

It was amicable and I guess she was realistic. She came out of the relationship in a better position than if she had been dating a fellow dirt poor student in that time, but whist we were together she got to do 3 "once in a lifetime" trips to Australia. a few 5 star hotels and no financial worries other than having to decide which shoes to buy with her money.

Swedish women do tend to be focused on being financially independant.

Maybe I was just lucky

[hoppy]

When cruising within Greece with Aussie family members, not once when visiting the port police with a crew list have they ever asked to see the passports of the Australians or my id. Maybe because my boat is Swedish they don't care to check?

I can only ever remember been asked to show my passport within the Schengen area just a couple of times in 14 years for reasons other than showing that I was the person named on the plane ticket.

Once was in Denmark were they were looking for Danish residents with foreign plated vehicles (Massive tax on cards and bikes). At the time I was still on my Aussie passport and had to explain I lived in Sweden. I don't remember if they checked for my visa.

On a couple of occasions when flying into Germany from Greece, several police were checking id's of people leaving the plane. They were probably looking for illegals and whilst I doubt they were looking for Schengen visa overstayers, maybe they would pick you up.

It's a good thing that they are looking at a longer visa. I just hope they implement it in a way that will work well for financially independant people who want to stay much longer than 3 months

[chala]

Originally Posted by K_V_B

The tax department doesn't get insight in my bank records

But the bank manager do and keen to report any suspicion that he or she may have to the police. For a person that lives in a country with a “contrôle des habitants “ system where citizens have 14 days to report a change of address and “lieux d’hébergements” that report daily to the police you are pretty naïve.

Originally Posted by MarkJ

[SIZE="6"] The new EU Schengan Touring Visa

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proof that they have sickness insurance for all risks normally covered for nationals of the Member States to be visited.
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This may be where the difficulty lies. The cost of such insurance can be so high that it precludes some EU expatriate from returning to their home country.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by chala

But the bank manager do and keen to report any suspicion that he or she may have to the police. For a person that lives in a country with a “contrôle des habitants “ system where citizens have 14 days to report a change of address and “lieux d’hébergements” that report daily to the police you are pretty naïve.







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proof that they have sickness insurance for all risks normally covered for nationals of the Member States to be visited.

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This may be where the difficulty lies. The cost of such insurance can be so high that it precludes some EU expatriate from returning to their home country.

Huh cheap enough to get. Couple of hundred euros once you don't need to cover the US

[chala]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Huh cheap enough to get. Couple of hundred euros once you don't need to cover the US

At least per month per person.

[monte]

My health cover to satisfy the French for a visa cost 500€ per annum. World nomads

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by monte

My health cover to satisfy the French for a visa cost 500€ per annum. World nomads

That's about right


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[K_V_B]

Originally Posted by chala

But the bank manager do and keen to report any suspicion that he or she may have to the police. For a person that lives in a country with a “contrôle des habitants “ system where citizens have 14 days to report a change of address and “lieux d’hébergements” that report daily to the police you are pretty naïve.

You know, you shouldn't tell someone who actually lives here how things are supposed to be according to you...

a) That you have to mention to wherever your residence is registered that you have changed addresses is something that, afaik, every advanced country does. Switzerland is not different there.
b) If my bank manager as much as gives a peep to the Tax Deparment he will lose his job and never work in the industry again. The Swiss Privacy laws are quite strict. And currently even the basis of the business I am building up.

[chala]

A lot of foreigner lives in Switzerland and some of them are very naïve and if their business depends on being in Switzerland then they better respect Swiss laws and Swiss citizens.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by K_V_B

You know, you shouldn't tell someone who actually lives here how things are supposed to be according to you...



a) That you have to mention to wherever your residence is registered that you have changed addresses is something that, afaik, every advanced country does. Switzerland is not different there.

b) If my bank manager as much as gives a peep to the Tax Deparment he will lose his job and never work in the industry again. The Swiss Privacy laws are quite strict. And currently even the basis of the business I am building up.

I glad I've lived in two not so advanced countries ( UK and Ireland ) where you are under no obligation to report your change of address in any circumstances. ( unless of course you'd like to get some mail ! )

Dave


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[K_V_B]

So in the UK all you have to do to avoid paying taxes is move?



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[boatman61]

Originally Posted by K_V_B

So in the UK all you have to do to avoid paying taxes is move?



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Now your being silly...

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by K_V_B

So in the UK all you have to do to avoid paying taxes is move?



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Damm - rumbled.

I beleive a state should do nothing to make you discoverable and I'm glad currently I live in one (both ) that don't. In fact Ireland still doesn't have postal codes. No body really knows where anyone is. ( mind u everyone knows everyone !! )

And yes you could move around to avoid being detected. That's what the police force are there for. Track your ass down , at least we can make it a little difficult !!!!

[Nicholson58]

Originally Posted by Paul L

Not sure if you meant this seriously or not. It is virtually impossible to know the rules of many of the countries that we check into. There are the rules as defined by the capital. There are the rules practiced in some port district. There are the rules practiced by some official. There are the Monday to Friday rules and the weekend rules. Even in countries with advanced legal infrastructures, like the US, the rules can be dependent on which part of the country you are in and who you are dealing with.

Oh, you must be referring to the BVI. Nice folks but we pay differently every time and never what the folks ahead or behind pay.

[svlamorocha]

Originally Posted by Nicholson58

Oh, you must be referring to the BVI. Nice folks but we pay differently every time and never what the folks ahead or behind pay.

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It ia always a mistery what will they charge you in the BVI!