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29-03-2024, 03:41
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
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Re: Standard or Metric
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Originally Posted by Hoosiersailor
Well I didn't think it was that funny of a question but glad I was able to be entertaining.
It's funny because having worked on aircraft all my life most all of them are standard " Imperial" [SAE] including Canada Bombardier, Airbuses, Embraer, etc. all the way down to the rivets in 1/32nd sizes. However, I am now working on small Diamond aircraft and they are a mix of different metric and standard sizes.
Thanks for the help. Now I know I will just bring....everything.
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Good idea.
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"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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29-03-2024, 04:29
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Australia
Boat: BUILT!!! Roberts Mauritius 43ft
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Re: Standard or Metric
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoosiersailor
Well I didn't think it was that funny of a question but glad I was able to be entertaining.
It's funny because having worked on aircraft all my life most all of them are standard including Canada Bombardier, Airbuses, Embraer, etc. all the way down to the rivets in 1/32nd sizes. However, I am now working on small Diamond aircraft and they are a mix of different metric and standard sizes.
Thanks for the help. Now I know I will just bring....everything.
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Don't forget a set of easyouts, a complete. engine gasket set, torque wrench, a spare starter motor
Seriously though (if someone hasn't already mentioned it) - a spare V belt for water pump/alternator , flexible water hose(?) , spare starter motor(?)
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29-03-2024, 05:43
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
Boat: (Cruiser Living On Dirt)
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Re: Standard or Metric
FWIW: The Yanmar tool kit, that came with my 1983/84 [?] Yanmar “2GMF15", contained:
10mm/13mm combo wrench,
12mm/14mm combo wrench,
17mm/19mm combo wrench,
22mm/24mm combo wrench
Phillips/flat screw driver.
All in a small plastic case.
That’s it.
It was suitable to perform routine, basic maintenance.
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"If you didn't have the time or money to do it right in the first place, when will you get the time/$ to fix it?"
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31-03-2024, 15:15
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Join Date: Oct 2014
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Re: Standard or Metric
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31-03-2024, 23:33
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Australia
Boat: BUILT!!! Roberts Mauritius 43ft
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Re: Standard or Metric
AND don't forget the small powerful magnet on a piece of string to retrieve tools/fasteners from the bilge and other inaccessible places.
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01-04-2024, 02:24
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Baltic Sea
Boat: Amel Euros 41
Posts: 232
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Re: Standard or Metric
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Originally Posted by rls8r
Finally - I'd recommend carrying a battery-powered angle grinder. I was surprised by the number of things it can be used for - in addition to cutting away standing rigging if something untoward happens while cruising.
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Second to that. It's amazing how you can convert a piece of scrap into a spare part with that and a simple hand drill.
And dont joke about torque wrench. Had a hard time finding that on Reunion Island when it was time to check engine head bolts after a rebild on Christmas Island. Finally got a friendly mechanic to borrow me one from a nearby garage.
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01-04-2024, 03:12
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Australia
Boat: Island Packet 40
Posts: 6,501
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Re: Standard or Metric
A good stock of Vice Grips and an 18" pipe wrench (Rigid aluminium or cast steel) with an aluminium pipe extension (cheater) to fit over the handle. An extensive vocabulary of both blasphemy and profanity is also handy to have.
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05-04-2024, 08:01
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Satellite Beach, FL
Boat: Brewer 44' Steel
Posts: 398
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Re: Standard or Metric
Despite what they say More is better
I just retightened my PSS seal with a 3/16 Allen wrench BUT the instructions said tighten to 6 lbs torque
I thought I had everything till I needed an inch/ lb torque wrench with of course a 3/8 socket with attached 3/16 Allen wrench on plus the 3/8 to 1/4” adapter for the 1/4 socket wrench
I already had 2 other large torque wrenches for the Yanmar
Remember you are self sufficient. You can most often fix it IF you have the tools
Ditto battery drill, grinder and Sabre saw
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05-04-2024, 08:13
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Rhode Island/Florida USA
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Re: Standard or Metric
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Originally Posted by Jammer
My advice is to resist the temptation to bring "everything."
I bring "everything" only for the most commonly used drives -- 10mm, 7/16, 1/2 -- and yes for those I have end wrenches, deep sockets, and shallow sockets.
I pruned my sets and don't carry wrenches for rarely used sizes like 11mm or 5/8. There's always adjustable wrenches and vice grips for the odd situation that comes up.
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We used to do this when I used to ride Enduro dirtbikes many, many miles back into the woods. I carried a basic toolkit, spare tubes, and a small bike pump. The old 'rule' was you only worked on your bike at home using the tool kit from the bike. I only carried the wrench and socket sizes that were actually on the bike (hint, Honda and many other Japanese companies only use even sized metric). I only needed a deep socket in one place, so I only carried one.
I approach the same with my boat tool bag. I try to only carry what I need, though the toolbag is much bigger than the one on the bike.
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05-04-2024, 08:31
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 193
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Re: Standard or Metric
Both and the usual assortment of tools you would find in a tool box. Nothing really out of the ordinary other than a couple of large wrench’s for the stuffing box.
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05-04-2024, 08:37
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#26
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: New Jersey
Boat: Pacific Seacraft Crealock 37
Posts: 28
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Re: Standard or Metric
After many years sailing and fixing my boat is various lands, I switched to calling those two options "Standard" and "Imperial". The world decided long ago what standard means.
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05-04-2024, 09:24
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Newhaven, UK
Boat: Bavaria 36'
Posts: 367
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Re: Standard or Metric
I am a retired aircraft engineer and cannot think of any hand tool that I’d willing leave behind from my former trade.
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05-04-2024, 09:25
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#28
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Indiana
Boat: Hunter Passage 42
Posts: 257
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Re: Standard or Metric
Quote:
Originally Posted by capnJ
After many years sailing and fixing my boat is various lands, I switched to calling those two options "Standard" and "Imperial". The world decided long ago what standard means.
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Wouldn't it be nice if it was that easy...
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05-04-2024, 10:05
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#29
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Phuket
Boat: Having a Stealth X 51 built
Posts: 174
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Re: Standard or Metric
At least one metric adjustable spanner/wrench is a must
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05-04-2024, 11:50
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 54
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Re: Standard or Metric
Get a cheap endoscope from Amazon for under $25 for your phone. Great when you have to see what’s behind that nut, bolt engine etc when your head is too big to look behind to see.🤗
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