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20-07-2017, 09:33
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#106
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Location: SC
Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'.
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
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Hi Cadence.
Since you are a Piver-Brown-Marples follower you know that they can be designed to come back.
When properly designed they don't sink and will float upside down on the amas which leaves the main hull high and dry and habitable. No other design measures.
I'll gladly sacrifice space for safety and 200 mile days when I must run and hide. Just keep an eye on the satellite weather map.
My #1 big open water cruising design for a singlehander is a 40ft center cockpit tri cutter. This size can accommodate all the conveniences.
Problems? Yes, slim pickings.
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I guess you and I have a different view of come back.
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20-07-2017, 09:42
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#107
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Location: Pacific NW
Boat: Hedley Nicol Vagabond MK2, 37'
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
It's more like not leaving unless you put in the righting kit or jury rig and sail upside down. There is water up tp the knees anyway because the cabin is under so prepping a dry platform or section is a good idea to go with the immersion suit.
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20-07-2017, 09:42
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#108
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
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Thanks, I've seen your post in the For Sale.
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20-07-2017, 10:09
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
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Originally Posted by Cavalier MK2
It's more like not leaving unless you put in the righting kit or jury rig and sail upside down. There is water up tp the knees anyway because the cabin is under so prepping a dry platform or section is a good idea to go with the immersion suit.
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It has been discussed:
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ed-146281.html
Jim Brown and Derek Kelsall have written abundantly on the issue over the years.
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20-07-2017, 10:19
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
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Quite a few others have looked at this as well. A proven system that would be fairly easy to implement in most boats was shown in the 1976 multihull symposium in Toronto. These are operator controlled systems though not automatic. It does sort of bring up the question, If nobody is there to initiate a recovery does the boat need to right itself? In many situations you would be better off waiting till the conditions that caused the capsize abated before righting the boat. Good luck on your shopping, you'll be able to set your boat up with what you think will work best for you.
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20-07-2017, 12:54
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#111
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
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Originally Posted by Cavalier MK2
.... If nobody is there to initiate a recovery does the boat need to right itself? .... Good luck on your shopping, you'll be able to set your boat up with what you think will work best for you.
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Good question and the answer, at least for me, is that it depends on the particular circumstances. In case the boat is largely undamaged and can be righted by sequentially flooding some of its compartments then I wouldn't hesitate to do so once the conditions abate.
Thanks for the good luck wishes Cavalier.
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20-07-2017, 13:30
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
Anyone believing a cruising cat of tri can be turned upright on it's own is delusional, after a capsize.
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20-07-2017, 13:38
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#113
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Location: Pacific NW
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
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Anyone believing a cruising cat of tri can be turned upright on it's own is delusional, after a capsize.
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They were awhile back but I know of a couple that have been righted by the operator. One was a cat, the other a tri. Both were testing their systems, since neither capsized at sea I guess you'd have to call it practice.
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20-07-2017, 13:59
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
Jim Brown's, "The Case for the Cruising Trimaran". Chapter 8, pages 182-186, four photos of Rob Wright using a modified Ruiz system to perform a somersault self rescue with his cruising tri.
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20-07-2017, 14:40
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'.
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
Ruis system. Anyone can patent something, it does not need to work. I guess my next tri will have a pivot between the hull and amas with a gas cylinder and a supply of compressed air. :-)
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18-08-2017, 18:54
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#116
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Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Quebec city
Boat: TRISTAR 31 Ed Horstman
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
Nice still have this machine made of epoxy 1999 a bit modify but it still a tristar
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18-08-2017, 19:00
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#117
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pacific NW
Boat: Hedley Nicol Vagabond MK2, 37'
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
Good for you. Tristars are great cruising tris. If you haven't already check out the Trimaran and Searunner thread and join the diversity of opinions. With 3 hulls tris have lots of points of view.
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18-08-2017, 19:15
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#118
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Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Quebec city
Boat: TRISTAR 31 Ed Horstman
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
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Originally Posted by Cavalier MK2
Good for you. Tristars are great cruising tris. If you haven't already check out the Trimaran and Searunner thread and join the diversity of opinions. With 3 hulls tris have lots of points of view.
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tk from a guy of the pacific ocean
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18-08-2017, 19:56
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#119
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Location: Pacific NW
Boat: Hedley Nicol Vagabond MK2, 37'
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
Me too, my blue water has been the North Pacific. One of these days I'll head to the warmer parts.
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18-08-2017, 23:04
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#120
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Fremantle
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Re: No love for trimarans - why?
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Originally Posted by Cavalier MK2
Good for you. Tristars are great cruising tris. If you haven't already check out the Trimaran and Searunner thread and join the diversity of opinions. With 3 hulls tris have lots of points of view.
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I see what you did there !
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