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Old 20-07-2017, 09:33   #106
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Hi Cadence.
Since you are a Piver-Brown-Marples follower you know that they can be designed to come back.

When properly designed they don't sink and will float upside down on the amas which leaves the main hull high and dry and habitable. No other design measures.

I'll gladly sacrifice space for safety and 200 mile days when I must run and hide. Just keep an eye on the satellite weather map.

My #1 big open water cruising design for a singlehander is a 40ft center cockpit tri cutter. This size can accommodate all the conveniences.

Problems? Yes, slim pickings.

I guess you and I have a different view of come back.
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Old 20-07-2017, 09:42   #107
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It's more like not leaving unless you put in the righting kit or jury rig and sail upside down. There is water up tp the knees anyway because the cabin is under so prepping a dry platform or section is a good idea to go with the immersion suit.
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Foam core 38ft center cockpit open wing cruising trimaran ....
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It's more like not leaving unless you put in the righting kit or jury rig and sail upside down. There is water up tp the knees anyway because the cabin is under so prepping a dry platform or section is a good idea to go with the immersion suit.
It has been discussed:

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ed-146281.html

Jim Brown and Derek Kelsall have written abundantly on the issue over the years.
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It has been discussed:

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ed-146281.html

Jim Brown and Derek Kelsall have written abundantly on the issue over the years.
Quite a few others have looked at this as well. A proven system that would be fairly easy to implement in most boats was shown in the 1976 multihull symposium in Toronto. These are operator controlled systems though not automatic. It does sort of bring up the question, If nobody is there to initiate a recovery does the boat need to right itself? In many situations you would be better off waiting till the conditions that caused the capsize abated before righting the boat. Good luck on your shopping, you'll be able to set your boat up with what you think will work best for you.
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.... If nobody is there to initiate a recovery does the boat need to right itself? .... Good luck on your shopping, you'll be able to set your boat up with what you think will work best for you.
Good question and the answer, at least for me, is that it depends on the particular circumstances. In case the boat is largely undamaged and can be righted by sequentially flooding some of its compartments then I wouldn't hesitate to do so once the conditions abate.

Thanks for the good luck wishes Cavalier.
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Anyone believing a cruising cat of tri can be turned upright on it's own is delusional, after a capsize.
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Anyone believing a cruising cat of tri can be turned upright on it's own is delusional, after a capsize.
They were awhile back but I know of a couple that have been righted by the operator. One was a cat, the other a tri. Both were testing their systems, since neither capsized at sea I guess you'd have to call it practice.
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Jim Brown's, "The Case for the Cruising Trimaran". Chapter 8, pages 182-186, four photos of Rob Wright using a modified Ruiz system to perform a somersault self rescue with his cruising tri.
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Ruis system. Anyone can patent something, it does not need to work. I guess my next tri will have a pivot between the hull and amas with a gas cylinder and a supply of compressed air. :-)
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Nice still have this machine made of epoxy 1999 a bit modify but it still a tristar
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Good for you. Tristars are great cruising tris. If you haven't already check out the Trimaran and Searunner thread and join the diversity of opinions. With 3 hulls tris have lots of points of view.
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Good for you. Tristars are great cruising tris. If you haven't already check out the Trimaran and Searunner thread and join the diversity of opinions. With 3 hulls tris have lots of points of view.
tk from a guy of the pacific ocean
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Me too, my blue water has been the North Pacific. One of these days I'll head to the warmer parts.
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Good for you. Tristars are great cruising tris. If you haven't already check out the Trimaran and Searunner thread and join the diversity of opinions. With 3 hulls tris have lots of points of view.
I see what you did there !
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