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Old 12-01-2011, 05:48   #1
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Kelsall Designs

I got to thinking about a cat designer I haven't heard much of in quite a few years... Derek Kelsall. A friend past on a link to his website to me, looking at some of his designs, all I can think, is why isn't there more of his designs out there.
Just made me wonder, how many people here own a Kelsall designed cat?
If you do, what's your opinion of it? Also is it a dagger design or fixed keel?
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I suspect that the Kelsall designs are not as popular is due to most being home completed. The amount of effort needed to complete a boat of this size is considerable, and thus it does not cater to the average person. Anyone who builds a large cat from nothing deserves enormous applause.

The designs themselves are fine, and I even looked at one some time back.

Personally I would rather be out there sailing!
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I suspect that the Kelsall designs are not as popular is due to most being home completed. The amount of effort needed to complete a boat of this size is considerable, and thus it does not cater to the average person. Anyone who builds a large cat from nothing deserves enormous applause.

The designs themselves are fine, and I even looked at one some time back.

Personally I would rather be out there sailing!
All true, my point more being, they seem to be great designs, no reason a pro builder couldn't take them on, rather than just people in their back yards. Similar to what Schionning designs in Australia, some are built by owner / builders but still a good portion of them are built by pro builders.
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All true, my point more being, they seem to be great designs, no reason a pro builder couldn't take them on, rather than just people in their back yards. Similar to what Schionning designs in Australia, some are built by owner / builders but still a good portion of them are built by pro builders.
I suspect that Kelsall likes the contact with owners and the control over the process from his workshops.
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All true, my point more being, they seem to be great designs, no reason a pro builder couldn't take them on, rather than just people in their back yards. Similar to what Schionning designs in Australia, some are built by owner / builders but still a good portion of them are built by pro builders.
Kelsall is still pretty active pushing his designs and running building classes.
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Kevin Lanes "tearaway" is a Kelsall design from memory. ( the guy who wrote some of the original Australian cruising guides, for those unfamiliar) a very solid simple boat that has done many miles, and not just in calm tropical waters. He may be a good contact to pursue.
A few pro builders do build kelsal designs.,
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Yeah, I started more from interest as to how many people here have one, and opinions of his designs, while they are great designs, I have no interest in building or having a cat built right now.
Quite happy with what we have now.
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Ballotta catamaran in peru is building Kelsall designed cats both sail and power
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Ballotta catamaran in peru is building Kelsall designed cats both sail and power
That's interesting, they certainly offer a nice selection of his designs.
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We have a Kelsall 12, professionally built in Brazil in 95.
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Does anyone know anything about this Kelsall design. Seems like a lot of boat for the money ? $250000





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That's a fantastic boat for the price! The only one thing I don't like about it, is lack of daggers.
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Yeh, I wonder what it sails like. Seems to have pretty good bridge deck clearance. Looks great.
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Old 13-01-2011, 23:58   #13
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The last Kelsall I sailed on was a 58, it was stable, and went like a bat outa hell.
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have you been on one of the Ballotta Kelsall 58's ??
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No, not on one built by them, but, looking at the design is the same design, just built in NZ, since all Kelsall's are built to the KSS system, I doubt there would be a whole lot of difference.
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