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Old 30-10-2019, 17:19   #46
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Re: Interior...Which Would You Buy?

I like your choices! But mainly I'm responding about the wood finish that you so despise. There are gell stains available that can alter the color as well as tinted poly coats. I haven't tried either yet but have been researching for a home project. Seems easy! LOL A light sanding , wipe on and wipe off for the stain. Light sanding and wipe on for the poly coat. Just some ideas.
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Old 31-10-2019, 06:36   #47
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The gel stain is like paint, and even with quite a bit of sanding it just wipes right off. I've tried poly with stain in it and it was ok on the main wood, but looks horrible on that trim... It just doesn't go on evenly and pools. And there is little to no grain on that trim so it just looks awful. Restraining was my first choice, and I've been working in finding a restraining option for months....
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:08   #48
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Oh! But never green. Does everyone know the sailor's superstition about no green on boats...?
Oh, you mean like those superstitions like no bananas on a boat or no women on a boat? Let's dispense with irrationality, it's 2019.

And green is my favorite color so...

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You’re in a tough spot; you already hate the interior wood, which for me would’ve broken the deal, but you won’t be able to disguise that with any cushions. I’d say “eww...move along” because I’d not like either part of that equation.

IMHO, the only smart choice would be to run 1 neutral (gray, tan...) consistently inside, and if you want something different, run another neutral color outside.

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I agree-I passed on the 'orange' interiors and went with the paler version because I'm not a fan of red and orange wood. But since you have a really strong wood color, it makes sense not to do battle with it with a strong cushion color like a blue (or green).

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Perhaps gluing on some small strips of wood veneer (like around the edge of the table) or almost like a chair rail. Black, possibly? like biedermeier furniture if you are trying to look classic.
For me as a buyer (and a carpenter, sewer,artist, and designer) this would look like lipstick on a pig and just be one more piece that I'd have to pull off because it's not going to stand up to the beating that boats often take.

My two cents-go with a textured, medium charcoal woven fabric in the super washable high tech fabrics that they have now, and do a contrasting welt in a darker charcoal (light welts get grimy). Charcoals and warm grays play well with the orange wood that exists in a lot of the boats, isn't too dark (which shows dandruff, skin, and dirt as much as the stuff that's super light shows grime), and is a good neutral.


that one is actually called "performance fabric" https://www.insidefabric.com/p-13874...chumacher.aspx

I have TONS of pillows with removable covers that are in all sorts of crazy colors, including a neon green (take THAT, superstition). They are inexpensive, easy to remove and wash, and I can take them off and put neutrals on if I ever wanted to sell the catamaran.

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Remember using patterned fabricated requires more fabric to match the pattern. Color/pattern choice may be influenced by geography and users. Geography; the Lagoon has large salon Windows, in the tropics this environment dark colors will "feel" hotter and fading will more pronounced. Users; if you will have children or pets aboard, don't go expensive fabric. I don't care how well behaved either are, accidents happen more frequently with children and pets. Of course "red wine" drinkers are their own worst enemies.
Good point about the patterns, plus a lot of pattern in a small space will make the space feel even smaller.

Expensive fabric is ok if it's the new performance fabric that stands up to the beating kids and dogs throw at it.
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White is a classic interior color.
If the wood has been oiled over the years it may take some extra effort to prep for acceptance of the finish. IOW latex might not take..,
I like white too. Our interior bulkheads are teak-faced plywood. Over the 40+ years of the boat's life there had been many screw holes drilled and filled. It was a mess.

We used a gel paint stripper (Soy Strip fwiw) to clean off the dark stain and oiled finish. It only took one application.
Then painted with 3 coats of Interlux Brightside gloss (with 2 coats of Pre-Kote to get it smooth). It looks spectacular!

I don't see the point of using house paint on a boat. It's the preparation and taping that takes most of the time.

I've taken to using boat paint on my house!
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This may go against every "designer's" creed but on a boat I want a fabric that focuses on "function" over "form." This means that whilst I might like a light neutral with contrasting piping that shows beautifully at a boat show, I really want something that will hide stains, reject body oils and sunscreen products and hold up long-term against UV rays and washings (with a hose or pressure washer). This will also take you to the highest prices per yard with great modern, durable vinyls to Sunbrella brand fabrics that will break-the-bank trying to cover 30 cushions. So then it is a matter of finding what's on-sale that suits your taste. Looks like the Blue Diamond in the link you provided fits the bill! Looks rich, will hide stains and is on sale! Plus it says "best uses:
Casino, Commercial, Healthcare, Hospitality, Motorhome, Residential, Residential-Formal, Slipcovers, Worship Seating" which is important because there can be a lot of gambling, healthcare and praying on a sailboat, not to mention hospitality! Post a pic when its done! And congrats on your New-to-you Lagoon!
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Just a thought. If you don't like the wood color on your boat, why don't you paint it? It would be a shame to spend the money on cushions and later wish you didn't. If you paint, you'll have more of a selection on what you want. See pic. I wouldn't worry about your re-sale. If they don't like it, they can change it.
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I just looked at your beautiful boat. You can't paint. lol I think you are limiting yourself. I wouldn't be afraid to mix it up. Put something like my print is small space and a totally different color and well spaced design in another spot.
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For me as a buyer (and a carpenter, sewer,artist, and designer) this would look like lipstick on a pig and just be one more piece that I'd have to pull off because it's not going to stand up to the beating that boats often take.

My two cents-go with a textured, medium charcoal woven fabric in the super washable high tech fabrics that they have now, and do a contrasting welt in a darker charcoal (light welts get grimy). Charcoals and warm grays play well with the orange wood that exists in a lot of the boats, isn't too dark (which shows dandruff, skin, and dirt as much as the stuff that's super light shows grime), and is a good neutral.
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that one is actually called "performance fabric" https://www.insidefabric.com/p-13874...chumacher.aspx

Good point about the patterns, plus a lot of pattern in a small space will make the space feel even smaller.

Expensive fabric is ok if it's the new performance fabric that stands up to the beating kids and dogs throw at it.
I am totally leaning towards charcoal. I tried the grays... but it just didn't look good.. But a charcoal that is sort of brownish grey looks pretty good. And it would be fairly neutral. And lots of colors mix with it.. So I can do accents in Teal, Aqua... peach... gold... even yellow looks great... So, now just to decide on a specific fabric.

And I am going to use Crypton… Nothing is as durable.
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Old 01-11-2019, 19:27   #54
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I just looked at your beautiful boat. You can't paint. lol I think you are limiting yourself. I wouldn't be afraid to mix it up. Put something like my print is small space and a totally different color and well spaced design in another spot.
Yeah.. I'm not going to paint, Although, looking at older models of a Lagoon 440, it has white behind where the cushions go.. below the trim. I really liked that look. Sets off the cushions. So, I'm thinking I may paint white there.. it would be about a 4" section that runs all the way behind the cushions, and I will carry it behind the nav station.. So, just a little accent. But, it will set off the cushions, and diminish a little of the focus on the wood.
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We chose to go darker in the interior for better livability less worries about stains. This is a new build catamaran in the 50 ft range. The indigo fabric for the interior is a new Sunbrella line called "Pure". It has a really soft plush texture. For our exterior, we chose a stripe pattern that is Sunbrella Marine Grade - It's called Motive Denim 4895-000. It's definitely a heavy duty stiff canvas type material that should do well outside. The attached rendering shows the fabric selection in our interior spaces. Have fun in your refit project!
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We chose to go darker in the interior for better livability less worries about stains. This is a new build catamaran in the 50 ft range. The indigo fabric for the interior is a new Sunbrella line called "Pure". It has a really soft plush texture. For our exterior, we chose a stripe pattern that is Sunbrella Marine Grade - It's called Motive Denim 4895-000. It's definitely a heavy duty stiff canvas type material that should do well outside. The attached rendering shows the fabric selection in our interior spaces. Have fun in your refit project!
very pretty. I'm totally with you on the "darker" route. We have white couches in there now, and all you have to do is look at it and it's dirty...
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Hi Scarlet - Check out the Sunbrella Pure line. Was a new product that we found in Annapolis at the 2018 show. They have a charcoal color as well in the Platform collection.
https://www.sunbrella.com/en-us/text...ure-collection
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I just recently bought a 2011 Lagoon 450F, and I'm really agonizing over my cushions (I know.. I've posted about them before). Anyway, we have to replace ALL the cushions, inside and out, on our boat. (that's almost 30 cushions, so, we are talking a lot of money) so I want to do it right.

I've looked at every single 450F on the market in all model years, and I haven't seen a single one that doesn't have either the original fabrics (inside and out)… or similar fabric in similar neutral/solid color.

I won't get into everything, but there are a few fabrics I found that work better with the interior wood, which is really orange/yellowish,(I hate the wood in my boat.. yuck!) but they are NOT neutral or solid color. Since I always like to have an exit plan, I thought I would go to you all and get your input..


Would you be turned off by a boat (in EXCELLENT Condition) that didn't have the "all neutral fabric scheme" throughout the boat? Would you see it in photos, and say.. "eow… move along"? or, would it be a non issue for you? I'm not talking about something garish... just not your basic grey/brown/tan/white.... (the fabric I'm looking at it would probably be something you would see in a classic monohull… )

What do you think? I'd really appreciate your input....
Why do you have to replace them ? Moldy, worn out ?
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Why do you have to replace them ? Moldy, worn out ?
Definitely worn out... still original fabric, and it is worn, pilled, and stained. It's really an eyesore. Previous owners had slip covers made which showed great for our showing... but, they are also white, and they get so dirty.. (especially with the dogs) So, I really need just to replace them with something durable, and that won't show the stains. And, of course, it's a decorating thing as well...
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