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14-03-2014, 10:27
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#676
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
APROXIMADA 36-18.2N
/ 034-19.9W A NAVEGAR AH VELA,
130457 UTC MAR 14
This does't align with their SPOT data for today
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14-03-2014, 10:27
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#677
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Pusher of String
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: On the hard; Trinidad
Boat: Trisbal 42, Aluminum Cutter Rigged Sloop
Posts: 2,314
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
Good to know that while there are issues they are not life threatening and no one hurt.
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14-03-2014, 10:28
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#678
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Florida
Boat: Catalina 470
Posts: 2,583
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
Not sure about the fuel...
Quote:
Originally Posted by atoll
probably he stopped one of the longliners that work within 100 miles of the island,and got them to relay,might even have got some fuel as well
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As a "Bing" translation says this:
WITHOUT ELECTRICITY, WITHOUT
COMMUNICATIONS AND BREAKDOWN OF
ENGINE. BOUND FOR PORTO
HORTA/FAIAL,
The whole thing here...
CENCOMARACORES
130457 UTC MAR 14
ANAV NR 617/14
PORTUGAL-ARCHIPELAGO OF
ACORES
SAILBOAT BONNE ETOIL, TWO
PEOPLE ON BOARD, HULL
WHITE AND A MAST, IN
APPROXIMATE POSITION 36-18.2 N
/034-19.9 W navigate AH CANDLE,
WITHOUT ELECTRICITY, WITHOUT
COMMUNICATIONS AND BREAKDOWN OF
ENGINE. BOUND FOR PORTO
HORTA/FAIAL,
DOES NOT REQUIRE ASSISTANCE.
CALLS FOR ALL NAVIGATION
CROSSING THE AREA REPORT
POSSIBLE SIGHTING FOR
MRCCDELGADA:
TEFL: +351296281777
FAX: +351211938518
ISAT PHONE +870776600145
INMARSAT C 426300065
ANAV 608/NR 14 CANCELED
NNNN
Perhaps Phil still has a handheld VHF and/or handheld sat phone to call with???
In any case, Fair Winds to 'ya Phil!!
John
s/v Annie Laurie
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14-03-2014, 10:30
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#679
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
Again
APROXIMADA 36-18.2N
/ 034-19.9W A NAVEGAR AH VELA,
130457 UTC MAR 14
This doesn't align with their SPOT data for today, or in the last few.
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14-03-2014, 10:36
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#680
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Florida
Boat: Catalina 470
Posts: 2,583
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
Salty,
The date / time here is probably the date/time of the alert...
The position does correlate to where he was Tues morning....
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
Again
APROXIMADA 36-18.2N
/ 034-19.9W A NAVEGAR AH VELA,
130457 UTC MAR 14
This doesn't align with their SPOT data for today, or in the last few.
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John
s/v Annie Laurie
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14-03-2014, 10:39
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#681
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 10,594
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
Quote:
Originally Posted by ka4wja
Not sure about the fuel...
As a "Bing" translation says this:
WITHOUT ELECTRICITY, WITHOUT
COMMUNICATIONS AND BREAKDOWN OF
ENGINE. BOUND FOR PORTO
HORTA/FAIAL,
The whole thing here...
CENCOMARACORES
130457 UTC MAR 14
ANAV NR 617/14
PORTUGAL-ARCHIPELAGO OF
ACORES
SAILBOAT BONNE ETOIL, TWO
PEOPLE ON BOARD, HULL
WHITE AND A MAST, IN
APPROXIMATE POSITION 36-18.2 N
/034-19.9 W navigate AH CANDLE,
WITHOUT ELECTRICITY, WITHOUT
COMMUNICATIONS AND BREAKDOWN OF
ENGINE. BOUND FOR PORTO
HORTA/FAIAL,
DOES NOT REQUIRE ASSISTANCE.
CALLS FOR ALL NAVIGATION
CROSSING THE AREA REPORT
POSSIBLE SIGHTING FOR
MRCCDELGADA:
TEFL: +351296281777
FAX: +351211938518
ISAT PHONE +870776600145
INMARSAT C 426300065
ANAV 608/NR 14 CANCELED
NNNN
Perhaps Phil still has a handheld VHF and/or handheld sat phone to call with???
In any case, Fair Winds to 'ya Phil!!
John
s/v Annie Laurie
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yes here is a slightly better translation as well,so it appears he is sailing "dead ship"
SAILFISH BONNE ETOIL, TWO
PERSONS ON BOARD,
WHITE hull AND A MAST, IN
APPROXIMATE POSITION 36 -18.2N
/ 034 -19.9W To NAVIGATE AH SAILING,
WITHOUT ELECTRICITY, WITHOUT
COMMUNICATIONS AND WITH ENGINE FAULT
. WITH DESTINATION TO THE HARBOR
OF HORTA/FAIAL,
REQUIRES NO ASSISTANCE.
ASKS IF The ENTIRE NAVIGATION
CROSSING The AREA REPORTING
POSSIBLE SIGHTING FOR
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14-03-2014, 10:42
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#682
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Boat: 48 Wauquiez Pilot Saloon
Posts: 5,975
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaltyMonkey
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In light of the recent pan pan and situation.... A smart monkey would invest every dime into tobacco and alcohol futures in Horta....
(definitely not making light of the situation, but Phil will be just fine...)
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14-03-2014, 10:54
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#683
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
Quote:
Originally Posted by ka4wja
Salty,
The date / time here is probably the date/time of the alert...
The position does correlate to where he was Tues morning....
John
s/v Annie Laurie
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Ok not quite but close enuf.
Between:
March 11, 2014 3:12:35 AM PDT
Coordinates: (WGS84)
36.30471 , -34.33548
REPORTED: 36 18.2 -34 19.9 = 36.303333, -34.331667
March 11, 2014 3:21:32 AM PDT
Coordinates: (WGS84)
36.30551 , -34.32654
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14-03-2014, 11:03
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#684
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 10,594
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
Quote:
Originally Posted by atoll
new pos this morning
Latitude :34.46363Longitude :-38.08957Time :09 March 2014 08:12:22
about 160 miles in 45 hours more or less north since his previous position
he must have found those north easterlies or broken something.
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on sunday
i hate to be a smart ass but this one is for salty
i told you so.......so dah!
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14-03-2014, 11:10
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#685
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Boat: 48 Wauquiez Pilot Saloon
Posts: 5,975
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
Quote:
Originally Posted by atoll
on sunday
i hate to be a smart ass but this one is for salty
i told you so.......so dah!
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ooooh that stings a little....
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14-03-2014, 11:13
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#686
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,423
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
must be more to the story given the slow boat speed
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14-03-2014, 11:35
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#687
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Warwick RI
Boat: Catalina 30
Posts: 1,873
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
Quote:
Originally Posted by sailorboy1
must be more to the story given the slow boat speed
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I was thinking the same thing. Now the rule of simplicity would suggest one event is causing all of the problems. The question is what likely event could cause loss of power, dead engines, and slow head way?
My guess would be props got fouled with a net or some sort of debris, which took out the engines and prevented him from charging the batteries. And is also causing excessive drag slowing him down. At least that is the only thing I can come up with that would cause all of those things.
Anyone have a more educated/experienced guess they would like to wager?
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14-03-2014, 11:44
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#688
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: gettin naughty on the beach in cornwall
Boat: 63 custom alloy sloop,macwester26,prout snowgoose 37 elite catamaran!
Posts: 10,594
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
Quote:
Originally Posted by ontherocks83
I was thinking the same thing. Now the rule of simplicity would suggest one event is causing all of the problems. The question is what likely event could cause loss of power, dead engines, and slow head way?
My guess would be props got fouled with a net or some sort of debris, which took out the engines and prevented him from charging the batteries. And is also causing excessive drag slowing him down. At least that is the only thing I can come up with that would cause all of those things.
Anyone have a more educated/experienced guess they would like to wager?
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big wave! with the patio doors open
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14-03-2014, 11:54
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#689
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CLOD
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: being planted in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: none
Posts: 20,423
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
I'm thinking a combination of problems. Aren't here 2 engines? So both engines, electrical power, and sails.
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14-03-2014, 12:03
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#690
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cruiser
Join Date: May 2010
Location: SF Bay Area; Former Annapolis and MA Liveaboard.
Boat: Looking and saving for my next...mid-atlantic coast
Posts: 6,197
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Re: Atlantic Delivery
Quote:
Originally Posted by atoll
i hate to be a smart ass but...
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Not hard, given the governor on ur edukation ! !
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