Thanks gabe1111, i dont think that the hull/keel joint is any worse than any other H38, and its good to know that there is damage to the skeg. Someone has bid $70. Hopefully they dont intend to scrap it. i appreciate the effort and the photos.
blessings
jon
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CORRECTION:
Earlier I posted a long post with photos about SVERIGE a Bristol 40 for sale. That boat is in CHARLESTON SC and NOT in St. Johns USVI.
The original sale post on Facebook only said "St. Johns" so I asked the owner of the boat to clarify. Here is his response today:
"Charleston South Carolina, St John's Yacht Harbor Marina E dock, slip E 33"
As with most of the posts I make in this thread, I will post several photos to ILLUSTRATE what this model of boat looks like in the typical interior, exterior, and plan views. This is to help CF members be introduced to a model of boat.
These photos may be from a MIX of boats and are NOT necessarily from any sale listing links I post. Use the photos to get an idea of what this model of boat may look like, then do your own research, then look very carefully at any listed boats and compare condition.
Condition, more than age or price, is most important when buying ANY boat.
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1. It was brought to my attention by another CF Member who is not in the market to buy now but suggested this boat may fit this thread.
2. It is rare to see a Westerly boat on the USAused boat market. Because one is currently listed for sale in the USA, I am using it to represent the lowest "Asking Price" I have found in the USA. Consider that as you will.
3. It may suit someone who is on a very small budget.
4. The boat is listed at a very low price. This may be because of poor condition or other reasons. IF the "new 30 hp engine with low hours" is in good condition, it may be worth looking at as a possible "project boat"...or not.
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As with any boat in this thread, CAVEAT EMPTOR!
I make no recommendation about the quality or condition of this boat. I have NO connection to the seller or boat. Buyer Beware.
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From the sale listing:
"Westerly Renown ketch for sale, needs main sail patched and pulpit remounted. slip may be transferred in stuart 200 a month. New yanmar 30hp engine with low hours, can motor away with just batterys, v berth, aft cabin, VHF, Solar panel, rigging in good condition, composting head, interior needs alot of cleaning. very nice boat with classic lines that needs a happy home. will consider any reasonable offer. images taken with the pulpit on."
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This is an IOR and one design class race boat that has an interior suitable for cruising. Google for more info on this class of boat.
See photo below for stats.
NOTE, the Yachtworld ad appears to have wrong LOA. Should be 36'
A high performance cruising yacht, the Schock 36 New York was designed by architect Bill Cook and was built by the W.D. Schock Corp. in 1981 as a one-design cruiser/racer for the New York Yacht Club. Can be equipped for both cruising and for club competition (PHRF 108).
NOTE: the photos are from a mix of boats of this type, and posted to illustrate this model.
Asking Price =$24,500
Location = Great Lakes
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Steady's NOTES:
1. This is an ALUMINUM boat, built by one of the very best Dutch boat building yards. This is important. I like that.
2. This boat was built by Dutch shipwrights. Take a look at the interior. I like it.
3. This boat has raced and done well. It has proven fast. I like that.
4. This boat has almost new Volvo 30HP Turbo Engine and numerous updated gear including self tailing winches. It is a Volvo Turbo, but it is practically new. I like that.
5. It has a distinctive appearance. I like it.
6. It has teak decks. I like teak decks. Yes, teak decks can be a problem IF they cause leaks in plywood decks beneath them. But, is that going to be a problem on THIS boat? I happen to like teak decks for good footholding grippiness. And if I were sailing this boat in northern areas (PNW, Great Lakes, NE) I could live with them. Just be aware this is a personal choice. Some will avoid them, but understand WHY they avoid them.
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From the sale listing on Yachtworld:
"This gorgeous 1971 Van de Stadt designed 39 foot masthead sloop is truly a rare find. One of 2 hulls crafted at Royal Huisman Shipyards in the Netherlands, best known for their superyachts, this aluminum built, teak-decked racer-cruiser has had an illustrious racing career beginning in the late 70’s.
As “Pied Piper” she was involved with the illustrious Chicago Yacht Club and placed competitively in many events from the Windy City to Milwaukee. She retired from competition in the early 2000’s and has been used as a family cruiser since.
The quality of her construction is evident and her sailing abilities well-proven. She needs a little attention here and there but is in sail-away condition and eagerly awaiting the spring.
She has a good set of sails and was recently repowered with a 30 HP Volvo turbodiesel, as well as new batteries replaced this year. Her older winches were replaced with new Barients and her running and standing rigging are ready for action. A 2013 survey is available.
Her owners are moving inland and all offers are encouraged. "
I like several boats Al Mason designed.
(CF member RKB has a sweet looking Mason 38 woodie, SANTA MARIA.)
That blue hulled steel boat has a nice look (I find it appealing).
Look at that bow pulpit! I recall when I was a boy I thought ALL sailboats had one like that! And my reasoning was:
All the better for watching the dolphins play near the bow of a sailboat underway.
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Thanks for adding that one to this thread. I enjoyed seeing it.
I looked. Looks nice for an older coastal cruiser. Better looking than some boats I have seen at that Asking Price.
Yeah, pretty tough boats too like all the oldies! The flush or raised deck is not an ideal design for cruising but for this area, at that price, for that boat... could be a really good deal for someone looking for a stout and inexpensive coastal island cruiser.
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Pythagoras
1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
A 1983 model is listed for $34,000.
Location = Ontario, Canada
Steady's NOTES:
This is the first of this make and model of boat I have posted on CF. It looks like a typical coastal cruiser with a fin keel and skeg mounted rudder. Note that it has a saildrive. The interiors of two boats I viewed appeared to have traditional layout with a small chart table and quarter berth. The interior has a nice teak wood finish with what appears to be better than average attention to detail.
Good job, Steady, again. I've probably mentioned this before but this is a great thread because I am sure there are hundreds of folks who look through these threads dreaming and thinking they will never be able to afford a cruising boat. This and other threads should help folks see that, if you love the ocean, you can cruise on a good, safe boat without breaking the bank.
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Pythagoras
1962 Columbia 29 MKI #37
I have just been notified by a CF Member that they have just bought this boat, and they first learned about it from THIS thread!
POST #276 up above.
Congratulations!
I am very happy this thread has served to bring a CF Member and a Boat together.
And as I posted earlier, "Good ones go quickly" so it is a good idea to subscribe to this thread so you won't miss other upcoming Outstanding Boats.
So, the Royal Huisman built Van de Stadt boat is OFF the market, but now part of the huge fleet of CF Members.
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Originally Posted by Steady Hand
Van de Stadt / Royal Huisman 39 Sloop 1971 ALUMINUM
NEW Listing today! NOV 3, 2016
Asking Price =$24,500
Location = Great Lakes
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Steady's NOTES:
1. This is an ALUMINUM boat, built by one of the very best Dutch boat building yards. This is important. I like that.
2. This boat was built by Dutch shipwrights. Take a look at the interior. I like it.
3. This boat has raced and done well. It has proven fast. I like that.
4. This boat has almost new Volvo 30HP Turbo Engine and numerous updated gear including self tailing winches. It is a Volvo Turbo, but it is practically new. I like that.
5. It has a distinctive appearance. I like it.
6. It has teak decks. I like teak decks. Yes, teak decks can be a problem IF they cause leaks in plywood decks beneath them. But, is that going to be a problem on THIS boat? I happen to like teak decks for good footholding grippiness. And if I were sailing this boat in northern areas (PNW, Great Lakes, NE) I could live with them. Just be aware this is a personal choice. Some will avoid them, but understand WHY they avoid them.
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From the sale listing on Yachtworld:
"This gorgeous 1971 Van de Stadt designed 39 foot masthead sloop is truly a rare find. One of 2 hulls crafted at Royal Huisman Shipyards in the Netherlands, best known for their superyachts, this aluminum built, teak-decked racer-cruiser has had an illustrious racing career beginning in the late 70’s.
As “Pied Piper” she was involved with the illustrious Chicago Yacht Club and placed competitively in many events from the Windy City to Milwaukee. She retired from competition in the early 2000’s and has been used as a family cruiser since.
The quality of her construction is evident and her sailing abilities well-proven. She needs a little attention here and there but is in sail-away condition and eagerly awaiting the spring.
She has a good set of sails and was recently repowered with a 30 HP Volvo turbodiesel, as well as new batteries replaced this year. Her older winches were replaced with new Barients and her running and standing rigging are ready for action. A 2013 survey is available.
Her owners are moving inland and all offers are encouraged. "