RIP Chavez

[atoll]

can the new guy sort out the piracy and boat crime on the venezuelan coast,cruisers forum members are dying to come back and visit your fantastic country........condolences to the family

[S/V Alchemy]

Eh, diesel might go up...

[manitu]

R.i.p Chavez , say hi to Simon Bolivar from me , would you?

About the pirates... I guess he had more important issues at hand than caring for tourists mostly from the same country that has raped his country for generations. Ofcourse, He allways separated the american people from the corporatocracy. He has lifted millions of people from absolute powerty.

The biggest question for the americans is if the new guy will continue to give oil in foreign aid to poor americans...

.manitu

[Jimbo485]

All the previous comments are hilarious. Good to see a bit of humour during what may become a difficult time for Venezuela.

All the best for the Venezuelans!

[Coops]

In his honour i have had all my bathroom taps engraved with his initials.

Sorry, someone just told me that one.

Coops.

[MarkJ]

The clown who has taken over will turn out as corrupt as Chevez. The first proof will be the forthcoming election within 30 days. While the Oposition is still in jail.

The country is beautiful and many of the people are wonderful, but they are dragged down by a high percentage of scum that Chevez empowered.

It will be years....

[scoundrel]

when I woke up this morning I could swear there was a scent of sulfur in the air.

[tropicalescape]

Originally Posted by MarkJ

The clown who has taken over will turn out as corrupt as Chevez. The first proof will be the forthcoming election within 30 days. While the Oposition is still in jail.

The country is beautiful and many of the people are wonderful, but they are dragged down by a high percentage of scum that Chevez empowered.

It will be years....

Yea ,what was he thinking? He should have never empowered those scum bag indigenous peoples!They should still be at the bottom of the heap of society...I hope that someone more "ill-itist" takes over and puts those people back in that pumpkin shell,where they belong..Think about how the world would be affected if some dumb indian gets his hands on a sailing vessel and shows up at one of the nice yacht clubs where finer people congragate!..

[boatman61]

By Scum.. I take it you mean the 'blue collar worker' as the West describes the underprivileged, underpaid folk in hospitals, factories, councils... etc.
Standard white arguement.. blame the man.. nothing to do with MY governments policy's who are pissed coz he won't let in the Corporations who screw the people even more... but then WTF do you care... your special...
Minimum wage... the biggest con introduced to the UK... the blue collars wages moved downward to meet it... the white collars increased the gap and the bosses... they're banking Offshore
And don't even mention the thieves in the Government.. when the West has it right.. they can knock the rest.. otherwise...
What pisses everyone of is that he gave the 'Native Venezuelan' power... something NZ, OZ, Burma, China and the USA has markedly avoided... to the extent of trying in some cases extermination.. in others often succeeding.
We've all seen US influence at work in Central and S America... CIA backed revolutions, poverty, corruption etc..
But divide and conquer did not work.. did it..

Chavez hay Morte... Vive la Chavez...

[Jimbo485]

Only 1 OECD country in S. America and it's not Venezuela, but it has the largest % of middle class and least poverty.

Chavez could have learnt something from them. I hope they move forward after the elections are over.

[MarkJ]

Originally Posted by tropicalescape

Yea ,what was he thinking? He should have never empowered those scum bag indigenous peoples!They should still be at the bottom of the heap of society...I hope that someone more "ill-itist" takes over and puts those people back in that pumpkin shell,where they belong..Think about how the world would be affected if some dumb indian gets his hands on a sailing vessel and shows up at one of the nice yacht clubs where finer people congragate!..

I am not talking about the indigenous.


And I think you would probably realise that.



I am talking about the criminals empowered.

[Jimbo485]

Chavez used a Rocna on his boat, but it was a kiwi one. And he was always surrounded by guns.

The Cuban doctors couldn't cure him. Must be a conspiracy between Raul and Obama.

Let's close this thread down asap!

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by Jimbo485

Only 1 OECD country in S. America and it's not Venezuela, but it has the largest % of middle class and least poverty.

Chavez could have learnt something from them. I hope they move forward after the elections are over.

Actually I think Obama's learning from Chavez... but even he connot bring himself to free health care for all..
We used to have that.. but what the socialist (Atlee) gave.. the socialists (Blair/Brown) ended up selling off...
Soon it'll be.. check the CC before they take you to ER..

[Bash]

Originally Posted by Jimbo485

Let's close this thread down asap!

There's a legitimate cruising interest here if folks would put aside their pro/anti-socialist soapboxes. Venezuela used to be a great place to go during hurricane season. In addition to being a gorgeous destination, it's a straight shot from Panama, and a source of cheap fuel. Unfortunately, yachties keep getting mugged there, officialdom is corrupt, and scarcities have become commonplace. Far fewer cruisers have visited Venezuela this past decade than in the decade before.

Let's hope the new administration can clear things up. And let's hope we can continue to have intelligent conversations on CF.

[gpshephe]

I've been to Venezuela. Don't know where all the beautiful comments are coming from, maybe from the ocean, but on land the place was dirty. The comments I get from the cab drivers on corruption in the leadership was, that that's the way it's always been. Chavez helped the country's poor more than most but in the end, the economy wasn't helped. Where have all the billions of oil money gone. In his family and cronies pockets is my guess. Amazing about governments of the world, how the politicians find a way to get their hands in the cash stream. It would be nice to stop into waters on the coast and not have to worry about being a target though. I guess when I'm met with the opportunity and need to get out of weather I'll head north to Rio Dulce.