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06-08-2016, 12:16
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#46
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Belgium
Boat: wanted a Westerly bought a Halcyon 27
Posts: 13
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Re: Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?
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Originally Posted by Skipper-Ingo
That's a port/harbor. What do You expect?
Go to: Ibiza
Cala Salada, 2 nm north of Sant Antoni de Portmany, the beach in the north of that bay: Platja de Cala Salada
or:
Southern Ibiza: Enseńada de la Canal (Platja de Ses Salines) the beach at the southern part.
If you are disappointed, You get your money back. 
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Nah, i can only go to Soller at the appartement we have over there. But in a few years i hope to come over sailing in my boat and then i will check out Ibiza
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07-08-2016, 06:19
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#47
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Western Australia
Boat: between boats
Posts: 1,022
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Re: Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?
Hey Hoppy
My 2 c having cruised mainland spain, france and the islands of the western med (but not the west coast of italy yet) is that on the islands there are plenty of anchorages, quite a few all weather options included (except sicily)
On the mainland however anything remotely resembling a natural harbour has been turned into a port by centuries of seafaring or in more modern times buoyed off for swimmers so anchorage options in foul weather are limited for quite a few stretches of coast and you are forced to plan ahead with an eye on the forecast and use marinas like it or not.
Its still absolutely worth it though as the experience by boat is far superior than a land based tourist IMHO.
But why are you asking when your about to put your boat on a ship???
PS are you still in Paroika? heading there today...
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07-08-2016, 10:37
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#48
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 2,844
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Re: Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?
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Originally Posted by Barra
But why are you asking when your about to put your boat on a ship???
PS are you still in Paroika? heading there today...
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Just curious...
In Kalandhon on the bottom of Naxos.
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07-08-2016, 10:53
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#49
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Pangaea
Posts: 10,856
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Re: Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?
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Originally Posted by tgv62
never seen them in june at Puerto Soller 
Go check it out again end of september
btw just checked out a mooring in Soller: 179EUR for 2 nights next week
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Free to achor just outside the marina off the beach. Poor holding due to rock bottom on far north western side near the rocky shore.
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07-08-2016, 11:07
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#50
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Belgium
Boat: wanted a Westerly bought a Halcyon 27
Posts: 13
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Re: Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?
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Originally Posted by Kenomac
Poor holding due to rock bottom on far north western side near the rocky shore.
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I know that spot, I go fishing from the rocks there
But the ballmoorings just outside the marina are free?
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07-08-2016, 11:13
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#51
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Belgium
Boat: wanted a Westerly bought a Halcyon 27
Posts: 13
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Re: Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?
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07-08-2016, 12:27
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#53
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Boat: Able 50
Posts: 3,139
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Re: Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?
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Originally Posted by Russ
Reedv1
Did you really mean $10 a foot. I have never paid even $5 a foot for a transient slip in FL or anywhere on East Cost of USA. Or did you mean east coast of ????? Russ
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Maybe $10/meter ? The most expensive place in RI is Newport Shipyard at $5.50/foot/night plus electricity which can be quite high when you plug in two 100 amp cables.
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07-08-2016, 14:52
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#54
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Narragansett Bay
Boat: Able 50
Posts: 3,139
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Re: Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?
Hoppy might have a point regarding Southern Spain. That is - the coast from Gibraltar to Almeria. I took a look on Google Earth and could see about 90% beach with man made harbors here and there. There did not seem to be a single sheltered bay.
Does this mean that if you want to anchor along that coast you either pay for a dock or head for a beach and hope for a calm night ? Maybe I have it wrong.
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07-08-2016, 16:51
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#55
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: between the devil and the deep blue sea
Boat: a sailing boat
Posts: 20,412
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Re: Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?
We have a friend who keeps his boat in the most expensive Spanish marina. But to him the cost is OK.
The way it works them they built the marina with their own money then offered the spare berthing space to transients. Being roughly half way towards Palma they can charge anything they please and are always fully booked.
But, as I said, this does not apply to the boats of the shareholders.
10 USD or even EUR per foot is not very expensive in this area. And likely far from the top prices of the most fab Med locations.
b.
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07-08-2016, 21:42
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#56
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Western Australia
Boat: between boats
Posts: 1,022
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Re: Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?
Guess that's how you get to 2561 posts ;-)
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07-08-2016, 22:01
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#57
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 2,844
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Re: Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?
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Originally Posted by Barra
Guess that's how you get to 2561 posts ;-)
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LOL
I regret that I never got a chance to see Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica & the Balerics but I'm still not convinced I missed anything along the coast.
From my hotel room in Monaco I enjoyed looking down on the Superyacht owners and guests. Can't do that from a yacht
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22-08-2016, 19:46
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#58
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Back on dirt in Florida
Boat: Currently in between
Posts: 1,338
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Re: Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?
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Originally Posted by Kenomac
Tread carefully my friend. The image of a nude 300 pound (140kg) middle aged woman or man hauled out next to the boardwalk, can be difficult to erase from the mental hard drive. 
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Yup, I've heard that but I thought that was what alcohol was for? Kinda like when it's close to a bar's closing time and you're still looking around for a snuggle bunny. They all look just a little better at 2AM and after 6 or 7 cold brews! Uhh, not that I've experienced that but I've been told...
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22-08-2016, 19:48
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#59
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Back on dirt in Florida
Boat: Currently in between
Posts: 1,338
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Re: Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?
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Originally Posted by Skipper-Ingo
SV Bacchus, I think you are a connaisseur.
Go there, and watch yourself.
Skipper-Ingo
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 We think alike!
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24-08-2016, 15:10
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#60
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Elvish meaning 'Far-Wanderer'
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Boat - Greece - Me - Michigan
Boat: 56' Fountaine Pajot Marquises
Posts: 3,491
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Re: Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barra
Hey Hoppy
My 2 c having cruised mainland spain, france and the islands of the western med (but not the west coast of italy yet) is that on the islands there are plenty of anchorages, quite a few all weather options included (except sicily)
On the mainland however anything remotely resembling a natural harbour has been turned into a port by centuries of seafaring or in more modern times buoyed off for swimmers so anchorage options in foul weather are limited for quite a few stretches of coast and you are forced to plan ahead with an eye on the forecast and use marinas like it or not.
Its still absolutely worth it though as the experience by boat is far superior than a land based tourist IMHO.
But why are you asking when your about to put your boat on a ship???
PS are you still in Paroika? heading there today...
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I totally agree with your description of the mainland coast. But I won't go back. After hanging for 4 years with the friendliest people in the Med I have no desire to return to the stuck up rude regions.
Palarran is in Naousa right now BTW. I'm back in the States for two weeks then returning. If you guys are around the area then let me know.
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