Italy, France, Spain med coast. Why bother?

[Symphony]

For boats under 50' - New England marina prices can hit $4.50 and $5.50 / ft for Friday and Saturday nights in the prime spots and in the nicest marinas during July and August. Newport in the most prime spot in town with the mega yachts was $6/ fit at highest season.

Easy to anchor out, then go to a marina midweek for water, Pumpout, 110v AC

Thanks to everyone on this thread for sharing actual price data.

[capitangiorg]

Why bother Italy, France and Spain coast?
It is hard to compare all three nation coast and even every part of their coast, so much difference in between. Anyway you should bother if you like to go inside the local life and colture of the places you sail. Cruising the med it is not just about sailing, there are far better playground for that, if you sail these coast you should like the colture, cousine, fishing tradition and notice the differences that still remain today in a globalized world. Along this coast you can find very expensive marina or very cheap one, it depends of a lot of factor, the good news is that you can know in andvance their rates and move consequentially. During fhe summer usually the wind dies at night, so youuo can just drop the anchor almost everywhere. In some places municipality let you drop the anchor in the outhe or inner harbour.
In my long experience in the med (I'm italian and I've cruised every corner of the med) I can say that with a good planning you can cruise theese coast and spend most of the night at anchor, and you can choose the cheaper marina to leave the boat and go land travel.
I hope this can help.

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[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by capitangiorg

Why bother Italy, France and Spain coast?
It is hard to compare all three nation coast and even every part of their coast, so much difference in between. Anyway you should bother if you like to go inside the local life and colture of the places you sail. Cruising the med it is not just about sailing, there are far better playground for that, if you sail these coast you should like the colture, cousine, fishing tradition and notice the differences that still remain today in a globalized world. Along this coast you can find very expensive marina or very cheap one, it depends of a lot of factor, the good news is that you can know in andvance their rates and move consequentially. During fhe summer usually the wind dies at night, so youuo can just drop the anchor almost everywhere. In some places municipality let you drop the anchor in the outhe or inner harbour.
In my long experience in the med (I'm italian and I've cruised every corner of the med) I can say that with a good planning you can cruise theese coast and spend most of the night at anchor, and you can choose the cheaper marina to leave the boat and go land travel.
I hope this can help.

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Excellent advice. Exactly what we're doing and experiencing.

[SV Bacchus]

Thanks Skipper-Ingo

Aaaahhhhhmmmm. Don't go there, if you are offended at the sight of nude sweet tittis!

OK, I've heard enough; I'm in!!

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by SV Bacchus

Thanks Skipper-Ingo

Aaaahhhhhmmmm. Don't go there, if you are offended at the sight of nude sweet tittis!

OK, I've heard enough; I'm in!!

Tread carefully my friend. The image of a nude 300 pound (140kg) middle aged woman or man hauled out next to the boardwalk, can be difficult to erase from the mental hard drive.

[Skipper-Ingo]

Kenomac,
- you overlooked that I wrote ..."sweet" t..."

SV Bacchus, I think you are a connaisseur,
- don't listen to Ken. I don't know what he is talking about.
I have never seen what he describes.

Go there, and watch yourself.

Skipper-Ingo

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by Skipper-Ingo

Kenomac,
- you overlooked that I wrote ..."sweet" t..."

SV Bacchus, I think you are a connaisseur,
- don't listen to Ken. I don't know what he is talking about.
I have never seen what he describes.

Go there, and watch yourself.

Skipper-Ingo

You'll get the good, the bad and the ugly.

Unfortunately, there's no minimum standard. And unlike the USA, not everyone gets a trophy for participation.

One word: Torrevieja... I'm still badly scarred, it's nothing like Formenterra.

[hoppy]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

You'll get the good, the bad and the ugly.

Unfortunately, there's no minimum standard. And unlike the USA, not everyone gets a trophy for participation.

One word: Torrevieja... I'm still badly scarred, it's nothing like Formenterra.

It's safer to stick to google for looking at that sort of thing.

[Island Time O25]

Originally Posted by skipmac

No, not even in NYC or Boston or Miami have I ever seen $10/ft per night. Most expensive one I found was $8/ft in NYC. Most places $4-$5 occasionally $6.

Last time I checked (about 10 years ago) a very comfy marina in Battery Park NYC was $6/ft plus electricity/trash fees/taxes which would probably make it about $8/ft. NY loves its taxes - they hit you with state, county and city taxes plus whatever other fees they can dream up each legislative session.

A friend who annually transits r/t New England-Florida run often anchors in NYC area and says he never had to pay unless he needed a secure spot during a storm.

In Boston of course if you can only stay at the fancy Rowe's Wharf marina or some such you will pay $8-10/ft transient rate. They do this mostly to keep what they deem "the riffraff" out and not because of the pent up demand, as just a few hundred yards away you can get a spot for $5-6/ft. But once you go to the workingman's marinas within even city limits it drops to $4-5 and with moorings typically $25-50 per mooring. And again there are plenty of spots to anchor for free if you don't mind a 10min dinghy ride or less than ambient view from your anchoring spot.

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by hoppy

It's safer to stick to google for looking at that sort of thing.

Well... I wasn't actually 'looking for that sort of thing" when I almost stumbled over it whilst walking along the Torrevieja boardwalk. In that respect, I'm guessing google would be safer.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VKcAYMb5uk4

[karabil]

Originally Posted by FlyTheCoop

We are changing crew mid August in Menorca. Best rate I could get was 260 euros/night for a 13m cat at Marina Mahon. Ouch! Some marinas had no vacancy at all.

There are heaps of great free anchorages throughout the Balearics, we did not use a marina at all through there.

[FlyTheCoop]

Originally Posted by karabil

There are heaps of great free anchorages throughout the Balearics, we did not use a marina at all through there.

We needed a marina for this one...

[karabil]

Originally Posted by Kenomac

Torre Vieja Harbor has a free anchorage and a beautiful boardwalk.

We laid our anchor in the harbour out of everyones way at around 10am after a nights passage. Guardia came along about halft hour latter to tell us we coud not anchor in the harbour, had to go to a marina. I explained we just needed a sleep and would be gone by late afternoon. They said ok. Few more boats anchored over the day, we stayed overnight and all left at daybreak. So it is not a multiple day option anymore unfortunately.

[tgv62]

Originally Posted by Skipper-Ingo

Sailing the Balearics is extremely safe.
Aaaahhhhhmmmm. Don't go there, if you are offended at the sight of nude sweet tittis!

never seen them in june at Puerto Soller
Go check it out again end of september

btw just checked out a mooring in Soller: 179EUR for 2 nights next week

[Skipper-Ingo]

Originally Posted by tgv62

never seen them in june at Puerto Soller

That's a port/harbor. What do You expect?
Go to: Ibiza
Cala Salada, 2 nm north of Sant Antoni de Portmany, the beach in the north of that bay: Platja de Cala Salada
or:
Southern Ibiza: Enseñada de la Canal (Platja de Ses Salines) the beach at the southern part.
If you are disappointed, You get your money back.