US / Canada border restrictions predictions...

[Macblaze]

Originally Posted by Bloodhound

Maybe because some tits don't require tats.

Sir! Did you just call me a tit? This is outrageous! You must answer on the field of honour—I suggest a cornfield maze at dawn!

I wonder which one of us is more bored. Me because I reply to tats with tits or you who tut tuts my tit/tats...

[Montanan]

Originally Posted by Macblaze

Sir! Did you just call me a tit? This is outrageous! You must answer on the field of honour—I suggest a cornfield maze at dawn!

I wonder which one of us is more bored. Me because I reply to tats with tits or you who tut tuts my tit/tats...

Tit for tat, actually is derived from Tip for Tap - mid 16th century.

Okay, I'll show you some tits. Let's see your tats.

Still have a lot of Canadian Geese crossing into Montaña.

But I predict that there will not be many Canadian Snowbird's of the humanistic type come down this winter.

Miss y'all.

[Bloodhound]

Originally Posted by Montanan

Tit for tat, actually is derived from Tip for Tap - mid 16th century.

Okay, I'll show you some tits. Let's see your tats.

Still have a lot of Canadian Geese crossing into Montaña.

But I predict that there will not be many Canadian Snowbird's of the humanistic type come down this winter.

Miss y'all.

Maybe Snow geese???

[astokel]

A quick look at the map from the John Hopkins Hospital web site shows you why the border must be kept closed.https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[Montanan]

Canada Covid August 23rd

[kmacdonald]

Yes, a lot of Canadian boats will be stuck in the US for years. I'd guess 4 or 5. I look for them to start going on the market for a nickel on the dollar. Funny thing about circumstance, someones loss is an others gain.

[Macblaze]

Originally Posted by Montanan

Okay, I'll show you some tits. Let's see your tats.

If I must (said the landlocked Albertan to the landlocked Montanan on a cruising forum)...

[Montanan]

Originally Posted by Macblaze

If I must (said the landlocked Albertan to the landlocked Montanan on a cruising forum)...

Nice, very nice.

I suspect we both enjoy when we get to travel to the ocean from our grand inland places and once again board our saltwater boats. Especially during our long winter months.

[kmacdonald]

It's going to be a loooooooooooooooooong cold winter in Alberta. I'll be thinking of you with my feet firmly planted in the warm sand.

[Montanan]

Originally Posted by kmacdonald

It's going to be a loooooooooooooooooong cold winter in Alberta. I'll be thinking of you with my feet firmly planted in the warm sand.

With Covid restrictions and risks, my feet may be firmly planted in frozen Montana. Perhaps a beach in Glacier National Park.

As Zac Brown sings it:

. . .
(Come on prop it up by the lake)
With my ass in a lawn chair
Toes in the clay
Not a worry in the world a PBR on the way
Life is good today
Life is good today


What's SUP?

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Montanan

With Covid restrictions and risks, my feet may be firmly planted in frozen Montana. Perhaps a beach in Glacier National Park.

Cool. We just visited Waterton National Park, partner to Glacier National Park as part of the Waterton-Glacier International Peace Park. Glorious place, and even better in the winter!

[Montanan]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

Cool. We just visited Waterton National Park, partner to Glacier National Park as part of the Waterton-Glacier International Peace Park. Glorious place, and even better in the winter!

Waterton is awesome, haven't been there for quite a few years before the fire. Wondering how well it has recovered. Dang near took out the town in 2017.

Did the usual Tea at the Prince of Wales and took a cruise boat ride down to Goat Haunt on the American end of the Upper Waterton lake. Stayed at a lovely inn in Waterton.

Another summer we went up to Banff to Jasper, pretty country.

[Mike OReilly]

Originally Posted by Montanan

Waterton is awesome, haven't been there for quite a few years before the fire. Wondering how well it has recovered. Dang near took out the town in 2017.

Did the usual Tea at the Prince of Wales and took a cruise boat ride down to Goat Haunt on the American end of the Upper Waterton lake. Stayed at a lovely inn in Waterton.

This was my first time back since the fire. It's amazing the size of it, but wondering through some areas it was apparent it wasn't a really hot fire. So the soil wasn't overly damaged. This means things are coming back fast.

The town was saved through the massive fire efforts of the firefighters. Still looks pretty much the same, except for the new visitors' centre which is going up. Gonna be pretty snazzy once it's done.

[Macblaze]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

This was my first time back since the fire. It's amazing the size of it, but wondering through some areas it was apparent it wasn't a really hot fire. So the soil wasn't overly damaged. This means things are coming back fast.

The town was saved through the massive fire efforts of the firefighters. Still looks pretty much the same, except for the new visitors' centre which is going up. Gonna be pretty snazzy once it's done.

Nice! Been years since we've ventured south even though it was my stomping grounds growing up.

[LaVieEnRose]

Originally Posted by ArmyDaveNY

This virus is not going away due to any human actions unfortunately. Once it escaped from the lab or wherever in Wuhan, there was no putting the genie back into the bottle. It is also very possible that due to mutations, there will be a different strain each season, and IF there is a vaccine, the scientists will have to guess which strain it will be, much like the flu. The odds are that they will get it wrong more then they guess correctly. It is possible that it will go away naturally, like another famous coronavirus, SARS.

Mike had two excellent points about the reopening. First, politicians and apparatchiks will use this as much as possible to gain any advantage. It seems to be happening in Canada, and is definitely happening in the U.S. There are also significant financial incentives here in the U.S. as the federal government is paying around $30,000 U.S. for every Wuhan virus death, so unsurprisingly there are many thousands of deaths that are listed as a Wuhan virus death regardless of the actual cause.

Second, until the pain becomes unbearable and the citizenry reacts, things will not change. Concurrent with this, if countries like Sweden, the Netherlands, and others who didn't fully shut down are shown to be over it, opinion in the policy circles may change. Certainly, those who didn't shut down are dong much better economically. There is some evidence that we are killing more with the shutdown that we are saving.

Regardless, I don't see the borders opening much before the end of the year, and I wouldn't be surprised if it took a good bit longer. This however may not be an all or nothing game. We are already seeing some travel allowed if the travelers can demonstrate a satisfactory quarantine. As better, faster, and more affordable tests become available, as people realize it has a low mortality rate, and as people realize there are effective treatments with very good results and use them, there may be a gradual lessening of the draconian restrictions.

What’s your citation for your assertion that the federal government is paying $30,000 for CoVid deaths? Are you referring to the payments to hospitals under the CARES act? Quite honestly, no one who dies in an ICU has a bill less than 30K, but the phrasing of your statement implies direct payment to families. Are you alleging insurance fraud that the deaths were not due to CoVid? Some of us on this forum have an allegiance to the truth.