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Old 22-08-2020, 10:44   #16
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Actually, the lead is worth ~$1/lb, but then you need to cut up and get rid of the f/g hull.
That was my point exactly!

That the value of the lead would equal the cost of getting rid of the rest of the hull.

I abbreviated that to 4500# lead=disposal cost

So why bother!
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Old 22-08-2020, 10:50   #17
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That was my point exactly!

That the value of the lead would equal the cost of getting rid of the rest of the hull.

I abbreviated that to 4500# lead=disposal cost

So why bother!

Last time I checked it was ~$500 to cut up/dispose of a hull. Maybe now it's more ($750-1k) and also sell off other parts, one could make a few thousand.


If one was out of work, needed money, there is your cash cow.
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Old 22-08-2020, 10:54   #18
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4500# of lead=Disposal costs!!
Assuming the marina has to meet all the environmental regulations, good luck getting it done for $4500.
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Actually, the lead is worth ~$1/lb, but then you need to cut up and get rid of the f/g hull.
Whoever takes on the disposal wont know if there's any lead in the keel of value. Just as likely to be pig or scrap iron, maybe even concrete.

And there's little value in old deck hardware. Do you know anyone that would want to put up an old rig on their own project boat?

Sounds like there's no electronics still going. What is there to sell?

Obviously recycle whatever you can, and avoid the dumpster whenever possible, but don't plan on any return. That would only be a bonus.

There's no mention of what the boat's constructed from, but whether steel or plastic, timber or another it takes considerable work breaking even a small boat up into manageable chunks.
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Old 22-08-2020, 13:01   #20
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1974 Gulfstar 44'
That's exactly what I thought when I saw the HIN but it doesn't match any of the data or profile on sailboatdata.com
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Old 22-08-2020, 13:12   #21
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That's exactly what I thought when I saw the HIN but it doesn't match any of the data or profile on sailboatdata.com

Sometimes the production years and other data are off on SD. I can't see the deck to see if it is a CC. Then it could be a 44MS (keel looks like it), but based on the HIN its a '74 Gulfstar.

This is what a 44MS looks like https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/27641
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Guys...Guys...Lets not talk about killing another boat. Lets hope some young guy gets it and spends a few years working on it and having a great adventure with it.
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Old 23-08-2020, 19:55   #23
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I think it's the 44MS.

https://www.sailrite.com/Gulfstar-44...etch-Sail-Data

The hull and what we can see of the cabin trunk match the brochure.
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... He showed me a 46-47ft (?) very shallow draft wide stern boat that appeared in descent shape on the outside. I don't recognize the make but I think it may be a gulfstar or something similar.
Is it a bad sign that I like it and would be tempted if I was local?
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Re: Free big boat

It's a free boat that needs work, some guys love that kind of challenge, and at the end, its built exactly the way they want, not the way somebody else envisioned it. Maybe doing the construction is actually more fun than sailing for some people.
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before anyone gets too excited



https://www.jordanyachts.com/2645
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https://www.jordanyachts.com/2645

Good read, thank you. What an oddly mixed history the brand has.
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Re: Free big boat

Over the years, I've run into free boats at just about every yard that I've spent time in.

Sometimes these free boats work out. It was fun to see a couple of high school kids at one yard get a free boat and successfully restore it. Their enthusiasm was so infectious, others in the yard were donating parts and advice to them throughout their build. They became a community project of sorts.

The reward came when they launched and went down the river with the biggest grins on their faces. The whole yard was grinning with them... good times.
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[QUOTE=kurtis king;3221331]before anyone gets too excited QUOTE]


That is a good read but I donít it would stop me from taking a free boat. Donít look a gift horse in the mouth.
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That is a good read but I don’t it would stop me from taking a free boat. Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth.
Well, if it was one of the hulls that were prone to serious osmosis it wouldn't be a gift horse, it would be a very expensive millstone.

And likewise, if it were one of the series that didn't sail well, then it is not going to reward the significant effort and cost required to make it even remotely sailable again.

Sadly many of these free boats are free for a very good reason. I can't figure out from the article whether this boat has potential or not, but odds are it will end up just being a horrendous expense of dollars and effort for someone, with little or no reward.

Sad, but true.

Edit: I just found BillO's identification of the year and model. If we accept the article linked by Curtis King as reasonably accurate, then we have a badly built boat, with a steel and concrete ballast and probably buggered balsa core decks. I think that is hardly a gift horse. Regardless of the state of the teeth.
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