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26-10-2021, 08:27
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Siberia, Russia
Boat: Try to own Albin Vega
Posts: 16
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Boat for a living
Hello, my name is Maxim, I am from Siberia. The situation with Covid-19 did not allow buying a boat in Sweden, most of the countries are inaccessible to Russians. We plan to sail with my wife as soon as possible because the iron curtain is closing. I have no experience of sailing at sea, but I built a sailboat and operated it for six years, in a fresh river. I can work with wood, epoxy and fiberglass. I understand engines and gearboxes. I am looking for a boat from 8 meters, in the Mediterranean or not far. Albin Vega was a priority, but she's not to be found here. If you or someone you know sells such a boat for adequate money, or you know that the boat disappears on the shore, I would be very grateful for the information. According to the plan, training at sea for a year and a transatlantic crossing next fall, and then how will it turn out. This dream has become a goal and I use all the means to achieve it. Our boat budget is around 5,000 euros, unfortunately this is the highest price. We are not looking for gifts, we are looking for a path to a dream. I would be glad to receive any information and help. Thanks in advance and sorry for the google translator.
P.S. Today Croatia, Montenegro, Albania, Greece, Turkey and Britain are available to us, but we are looking at all the countries of the Mediterranean Sea.
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26-10-2021, 09:13
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 987
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Re: Boat for a living
Hi Maxim, welcome to the forum!
I fear, this plan is rather difficult: very low budget and you need papers to enter the countries (in these modern times you cannot just arrive by boat, see e.g. https://www.noonsite.com/). An Albin Vega or similar boats can be ok for one person but with two I think that you or your wife won't be happy long.
Maybe it would be easier to try to join another boat as crew? Or as you are knowledgeable about boats/technology maybe you could try to find work in a boatyard in the mentioned countries?
By the way: what do you mean with "sorry for the google translator": don't you speak english?
[Edit] Another question: "the iron curtain is closing". What do you mean with this?
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26-10-2021, 09:33
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#3
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Siberia, Russia
Boat: Try to own Albin Vega
Posts: 16
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Re: Boat for a living
Hi blu3534 =) 5000 euros just for the purchase of a boat, I understand that this is the price of a sail, but sometimes people sell unnecessary or require investments and repairs. In fact, my message is a cry from the heart, from the fact that the dream is melting before our eyes.
I tried to join the carriage, but my wife and I are single and are afraid to let people down.
I speak English, but I can't say much because I have no practice. The "Iron Curtain" is an expression of the times of the Cold War (the USSR and the USA), everything is complicated in my country and it is only getting worse, the time is not far off when we will be forbidden to travel outside its borders.
Thank you very much for your reply.
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26-10-2021, 09:35
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: Miami Beach
Boat: Prout Snowgoose 37
Posts: 209
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Re: Boat for a living
Welcome to the forum Maxim and good luck.
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26-10-2021, 09:45
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Detroit
Boat: O'Day 30 CB
Posts: 416
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Re: Boat for a living
Maxim, welcome to CF and good luck with your search.
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26-10-2021, 09:56
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: La Ciudad de la Misión Didacus de Alcalá en Alta California, Virreinato de Nueva España
Boat: Cal 20
Posts: 21,309
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Re: Boat for a living
Welcome.
I would suggest updating your profile with your general location and your boat make & model or “Looking” in the "Boat" category. This info shows up under your UserName in every post in the web view. Many questions are boat and/or location dependent and having these tidbits under your UserName saves answering those questions repeatedly. If you need help setting up your profile then click on this link: https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...ml#post3308797
I would happily help more if the link above is not enough.
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26-10-2021, 10:34
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 16,306
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Re: Boat for a living
Hi Maxim and welcome.
Do not know the boat market in Europe as well but in the US you could certainly buy a boat 10 meters or less for 5000 euros. Probably not very pretty and surely need some work but maybe not too much.
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26-10-2021, 10:37
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 9
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Re: Boat for a living
It seems like you have a time element as well, which only makes things more difficult. Perhaps you can look for a boat that needs work, and put in Sweat Equity. I recently purchased a freedom 28 with good motor and sails in great shape except for the interior which was trashed and needs to be either refinished or replaced. I paid $2,500 us.good luck
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26-10-2021, 10:50
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 31,066
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Re: Boat for a living
A couple I know sailed one of these from the UK down to the Med and on to Greece.. good storage and strong livable small boat..
https://yachts.apolloduck.co.uk/boat...or-sale/680296
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26-10-2021, 11:09
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Lakewood, OH
Boat: C&C 27
Posts: 4
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Re: Boat for a living
Hi Maxim and welcome aboard!
Just because you have 5,000 euros now does not mean that you couldn't have more in the future. Perhaps you can use the funds to get to another country where you can use your skills that you already have. This would allow you to earn and save more money and gain more sailing experience along the way. Just my suggestion.
Good luck and keep us posted with updates.
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26-10-2021, 11:09
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Nearly an old salt
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
Boat: Bavaria 36
Posts: 22,801
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Boat for a living
It’s possible to buy a wreck of a boat for a few thousand euros. But that’s what it is a wreck.
In fact you’re more likely to get one for free in fact if you can haunt boatyards. But again the cost to get anything up to a sail-able boat will be way outside that budget
Also the med is not a cheap place to sail or live anymore
Sadly , my friend , what you seek “ might” be found but you will have to be very lucky. In reality it’s a dream not a plan.
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26-10-2021, 11:33
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 771
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Re: Boat for a living
Everything is possible. You just have to know where to look.
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26-10-2021, 13:29
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#13
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Florida Gulf Coast
Boat: 36' Gulfstar Trawler
Posts: 58
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Re: Boat for a living
There is a very nice Russian woman who now lives in St. Petersburg, Russia, I believe, and she has about a 40' sailboat that is for sale (I think) in the Caribbean.
She is on Facebook and her name is: Marina Karlova.
She knows boats and she knows sailing. From what I can tell she is done with boating and would love to sell her boat.
Contact her directly on Facebook.
She seems to be a very good person.
Good Luck.
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26-10-2021, 13:56
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#14
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Boat: 1982 Irwin 46 Ketch - Reduced Rig & Shoal Draft
Posts: 195
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Re: Boat for a living
Hi Maxim,
Welcome to the forum. If possible you should consider coming to the Caribbean. Its cheaper. there are less rules and the weather is better than the Med. You will have to stay out of the "Box" during hurricane season but other than that there are a lot of advantages to the Caribbean over the Med.
Good luck and have fun.
S/V August
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26-10-2021, 14:00
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Nearly an old salt
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
Boat: Bavaria 36
Posts: 22,801
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Re: Boat for a living
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailing August
Hi Maxim,
Welcome to the forum. If possible you should consider coming to the Caribbean. Its cheaper. there are less rules and the weather is better than the Med. You will have to stay out of the "Box" during hurricane season but other than that there are a lot of advantages to the Caribbean over the Med.
Good luck and have fun.
S/V August
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Having sailed in both , I’d say in general the Caribbean is considerably more expensive for boaters then the med, especially eastern med.
There are very few “ rules “ to be followed in the med.
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