450: Just signed on a new 450s!

[arsenelupiga]

how do you fill the tank and remove all air from tank after all done ?

[davedindubai]

7 month old element:



End of element:


Cleaned up and will have to do until I can replace it.

[davedindubai]

The tank emptied fast enough when I managed to undo the element. Then to empty all the rusty brown water out I had to turn the tank upside down.

I’m guessing there is meant to be an anode!

I am not sure why Lagoon would not simply send me a new element. Or even suggest I remove the element and check it. Or, even send and engineer to my boat to check the element!

Very disappointed in Lagoon at this point.

[davedindubai]

Originally Posted by arsenelupiga

how do you fill the tank and remove all air from tank after all done ?

I opened the hot tap a little to let air escape and then turned the water pump back on. It goes without saying, don’t heat the element until the tank is full of water.

[slimnrp]

Well done on finding a wrench, my engineer had to fashion a makeshift one in his workshop!
Re the element and warranty, Ancasta look after all of my issues and have done for previous boats - I’d be really pee’d off with my dealer if they were not nipping problems like this in the bud.

Not wanting to rub salt in but when my element failed they sent two to me so that I had a spare, and covered the cost of the engineer; you should expect more from your dealer imho

[davedindubai]

Originally Posted by slimnrp

Well done on finding a wrench, my engineer had to fashion a makeshift one in his workshop!

Re the element and warranty, Ancasta look after all of my issues and have done for previous boats - I’d be really pee’d off with my dealer if they were not nipping problems like this in the bud.



Not wanting to rub salt in but when my element failed they sent two to me so that I had a spare, and covered the cost of the engineer; you should expect more from your dealer imho

It’s not rubbing salt in the wound at all but let’s see if Lagoon Dubai, Harel Yachts in St Martin and Lagoon in France are reading this.

I DO expect more!

Thankfully I’ve got CF who offer 1,000,000 times better support than the people I gave half a million euros to.

[c-reel]

Originally Posted by davedindubai

Thankfully I’ve got CF who offer 1,000,000 times better support than the people I gave half a million euros to.

Dave,
Lots of credit to you too. Remember that you are the one who initiated this thread, which has turned into such an amazing database!

As a reward, Sail Magazine US, March version posted a picture of you and Haley dancing (page 16, in their article about the ARC) ;-)

[PaulinOz]

Quote "As a reward, Sail Magazine US, March version posted a picture of you and Haley dancing (page 16, in their article about the ARC)"

A picture of Dave dancing, why are we all being punished just to reward him. In Haley's words "don't dance for the camera Dave"

[slimnrp]

Dave,
We’ve been watching your vlog, thanks for all the effort that goes into that...are you going to be going into detail about crew for ARC, we are crossing in November, ARC +), and we need to start thinking about crew:

Do we really need
How was your watch system managed
Did you use family and friends or did you use crew finder et al

If you get time to give your thoughts on this I’d be grateful, if you’d rather PM then let me know.

Many thanks, keep up the good work and both of you hurry up and put on some weight, you’re making us all feel bad

Nigel

[davedindubai]

Originally Posted by c-reel

Dave,

Lots of credit to you too. Remember that you are the one who initiated this thread, which has turned into such an amazing database!



As a reward, Sail Magazine US, March version posted a picture of you and Haley dancing (page 16, in their article about the ARC) ;-)

Cyril, what pic? We’ve no idea??

[davedindubai]

Originally Posted by PaulinOz

A picture of Dave dancing, why are we all being punished just to reward him. In Haley's words "don't dance for the camera Dave"

I hear ya and totally agree! [emoji1]

[davedindubai]

Originally Posted by slimnrp

Dave,

We’ve been watching your vlog, thanks for all the effort that goes into that...are you going to be going into detail about crew for ARC, we are crossing in November, ARC +), and we need to start thinking about crew:



Do we really need

How was your watch system managed

Did you use family and friends or did you use crew finder et al



If you get time to give your thoughts on this I’d be grateful, if you’d rather PM then let me know.



Many thanks, keep up the good work and both of you hurry up and put on some weight, you’re making us all feel bad



Nigel

Firstly, thanks and I think the Caribbean beers may be helping with the weight issue [emoji6].

We are only a couple of videos away from our crossing episode so hopefully we will cover all your questions (I’ll take note now and make sure we cover it).

Most importantly. We wholly recommend the arc and are so pleased we did it and learned so much in the process. The only negatives are November is quite early to depart and having a fixed departure date. From my point of view, it’s worth putting up with the negatives to have the support of another 200 boats that all had to meet the same safety criterion that you will. Plus you’ll learn so much from the other crews before you depart.

Crew: we went for a crew of 5 which is a great number for our boat and really easy watch wise. We took 2 guys I work with plus 1 girl recommended by a friend of ours.

We can single hand our boat no problem so I opted for single watches and if needed we wake up the next on shift. I counted on a 20 day crossing so every 4 days I rotated the shifts forward so nobody got stuck in a crap shift. It worked perfectly! You’ll need to wind the clock back so we did 1 hour at lunchtime when it’s no hardship and spread it over 4 days. You’re prob wondering hour 12 hours divides into 5? 4x 2.5hr shift and 1x 2hr shift. I made the 2hr shift from 06:00-08:00 / 18:00-20:00 and that shift washed up after evening meal and cleaned the solar panels in the morning. I didn’t come across anyone else using this shift pattern but it 100% worked for us. Lots of time off and meant that nobody was tired during the day so we all ate together every day before sunset. We also reefed the main before dark every day. (If it wasn’t already at reef 2!)

I’m impressed you’re planning this early Nigel, we didn’t even think about the crossing until 6 weeks before! Hope this helps.

Oh. 1 more thing and the most important.... buy as much as you possibly can of anything you want before you leave Europe. Even if you can get it over here, it’ll cost between double and 10x!

[GARRYOWEN]

Originally Posted by davedindubai

We are only a couple of videos away from our crossing episode so hopefully we will cover all your questions (I’ll take note now and make sure we cover it).

Can you put a link to videos I'd like to check them out, thanks.

[GARRYOWEN]

Originally Posted by sidetracks

Hi All

Thanks Dave will do.

Signed up to a few online marine suppliers for comparisons.

I have settled for the SPINLOCK DECKVEST 5D PRO SENSOR 170N with BALISE S20 SMARTFIND AIS devices.

With reference the approval of life jackets and other safety equipment for pleasure craft.

Is it not the country where your boat is registered that sets the compliance standard for onboard safety equipment?

regards
George

I heard that the cartridges are inside the bladder meaning they must be shipped back to manufacturer for service / inspection ...that sounds like a p.i.t.a.

[davedindubai]

Originally Posted by GARRYOWEN

Can you put a link to videos I'd like to check them out, thanks.

Here’s our channel link, there’s a fair bit of Lagoon info spread across the vids:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2n...yaWMkBYpnNN1Rg