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Old 03-04-2017, 03:52   #16
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Re: Its finally done! - Lagoon 450 F purchase complete

Congratulations. I am another Australian maybe 5 months ahead of you (but most likely even more of a "newbie" ) and a few hundred miles north in Croatia (also on a Lagoon 450 F). Are you registering under the Aussie flag? ( I went for Jersey simply because it was easier at the time - no Australian Govt recognised Justices of the Peace style signatories in Split.)
Hopefully our paths might cross along with the many other Australian Lagoonies in the Adriatic at some stage.
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Old 03-04-2017, 05:32   #17
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Awesome! Congratulations.
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Old 03-04-2017, 06:12   #18
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Old 03-04-2017, 11:08   #19
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Glad you found the boat of your dreams, and could afford it too!.. congrats and all the best
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Old 03-04-2017, 22:20   #20
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If you need any information on getting it Australian Registered please feel free to PM me, or contact via my web site, or call when you are back in Australia. I am in Perth until 5 May.

It is a very simple, quick and inexpensive process. I can provide a copy of my registration certificate which has all the information required put a 450 F on the Australian Register (which I got off another 450 owner).

Many Turkish boats are Delaware registered, which I have heard can lead to a lots of official interest when crossing to Greece. Also insurance premiums will be higher.

BTW - We will be cruising around Fethiye/Göcek area week commencing 5 June
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Old 03-04-2017, 23:14   #21
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Congratulations. I am another Australian maybe 5 months ahead of you (but most likely even more of a "newbie" ) and a few hundred miles north in Croatia (also on a Lagoon 450 F). Are you registering under the Aussie flag? ( I went for Jersey simply because it was easier at the time - no Australian Govt recognised Justices of the Peace style signatories in Split.)
Hopefully our paths might cross along with the many other Australian Lagoonies in the Adriatic at some stage.
Yes, we are registering in Australian, with AMSA. My wife (especially) REALLY wants to sail under the Aussie flag, and given I've sailed on many ships under the White ensign, be nice to sail again under the Red Ensign.....

We have a tentative plan to leave Turkey end of May, and head in the general direction of Venice for the summer sailing as a shakedown cruise. Will see what happens !.

We do have a pile of (expected) maintenance to do first though.

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Old 03-04-2017, 23:18   #22
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If you need any information on getting it Australian Registered please feel free to PM me, or contact via my web site, or call when you are back in Australia. I am in Perth until 5 May.

It is a very simple, quick and inexpensive process. I can provide a copy of my registration certificate which has all the information required put a 450 F on the Australian Register (which I got off another 450 owner).

Many Turkish boats are Delaware registered, which I have heard can lead to a lots of official interest when crossing to Greece. Also insurance premiums will be higher.

BTW - We will be cruising around Fethiye/Göcek area week commencing 5 June

Will PM you for sure. We just went through the Stat-Dec process for the builders cert and have emails all the docs to AMSA for confirmation before sending them. Not sure I'd call it 'inexpensive' with what they charge ! but at least its once off.

This boat WAS Delaware registered, it isn't anymore (as of yesterday), so we are in rego limbo right now. Agent playing with Turkish paperwork.
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Old 03-04-2017, 23:34   #23
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Congrats! Great shopping! To help others learn the current economic conditions, would you be ok to share: How many hours on the engine/genie? What options does it have or not have? What maintenance are you expecting right away? Fair winds!
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One Owner from new, never chartered. 2011 Lagoon 450 F.
Just under 600 hours on both Engines, 700 hours on the Genset.

Equip:
3 Electric Winches (Davits, MainSheet, Port Manuvering), Both Genoa Winches are Manual.
Dishwasher
Washing Machine
11kw Onan genset
Electric Toilets and Holding Tanks x 3
Reverse Cycle A/C x 4 units.
TV on lift thing in Salon (its going, too small)
All Cushions, inc 4 for the trampolines (another thing thats going !)
Square top Main, Genoa,
Raymarine 120 plotter at helm and Nav. VHF etc. (usual nav items)
Electronic Engine and Helm control at the Nav Table.
Normal Props (NOT Folding ones)
Teak Table in cockpit
Yanmar 54's

Maintenance that needs doing (or that we are going to do).
- Antifouling
- Full Engine maintenance on both Yanmars and Genset
- Full Sail drive maintenance, inc the cones (just on spec)
- Running Rigging needs checking. Something sticking in the Genoa Furler makes it very jerky to unroll / roll up. Reefing lines are very stiff to run when raising main. (General maint)
- 2 of the electric winches, the buttons have deteriorated and need replacing.
- General lube and checking of anything that moves. The boat hasn't been used recently much, and mast and boom sheeves (for example) are not all running as free as they should.

The boat is in pretty good condition from Survey,

Gear we plan to fit at some point.
- Watermaker. #1 priority
- Diesel Heating (at some point)
- Dive Compressor
- Helm Hard Top (probably) - See PaulinOz setup as guide for what we want
- 2kw Solar across the back, 5kw inv and maybe lithium. (will see).
- Parasailor or Wingaker before going west.
- Upgrade at least the Stb Genoa winch to Electric for the main halyard. Prob both just for 'easy mode' (mainly for the missues).


Hope thats usefull.

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Old 04-04-2017, 00:39   #24
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Hey Mark, perhaps keep quiet about the TV upgrade so as to not "spook the horses" and start that bun fight again? ☺

Perhaps also consider folding props? It's the easiest sailing performance upgrade that you can ever make.
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Old 04-04-2017, 00:48   #25
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We are considering folding props as upgrade, yes. Just prob not first on the list (they are not cheap !).

From what I understand, gain about an extra 1/2 knot per prop, so total 1 knott of boat speed under sail with foldings. Does that sound right ?

Roger on the TV !.

Lets just say we do NOT fall into 'minimalist' when it comes to devices that consume power....


One other upgrade that came up this morning. The Microwave needs replacing. Its a PoS and has issues. (The 'start' button only starts if you hold it in, or stick a paperclip / toothpick in it). Any recommendations on a decent one ?

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Old 04-04-2017, 01:01   #26
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Hey Mark, perhaps keep quiet about the TV upgrade so as to not "spook the horses" and start that bun fight again? ☺

Perhaps also consider folding props? It's the easiest sailing performance upgrade that you can ever make.
no worries, he will be watching italian pornos so all good.
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Old 04-04-2017, 02:59   #27
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no worries, he will be watching italian pornos so all good.
I think it's called "politics" over there, with pornstars like "bunga bunga Berlusconi" and Cicciolina Staller.

"Yes Honey, the boys and I were studying politics in depth last night".
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One other upgrade that came up this morning. The Microwave needs replacing. Its a PoS and has issues. (The 'start' button only starts if you hold it in, or stick a paperclip / toothpick in it). Any recommendations on a decent one ?

Regards

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Only ever had folding props, so not sure about speed increase. I've heard that those who have changed pick up an extra knot at higher cruising speeds.

If you're replacing the microwave, consider buying a convection microwave oven. Same size, but more versatile. If you have AC power to spare or are at a marina then use this for baking instead of the gas oven.
When doing entertaining, 2 ovens can be handy.

Like when group- studying Italian politics in depth.☺
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Old 04-04-2017, 03:10   #29
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Quote"I think it's called "politics" over there, with pornstars like "bunga bunga Berlusconi" and Cicciolina Staller."

Did not know of whom you where eluding to Mark so just Googled Mr Bunga.



Politics looks more interesting in Italy than it is here in Oz.
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Glad you posted the opening scene, not the grande finale.
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