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17-01-2018, 18:22
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#151
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
Dave..
OK - Understood. Many thanks for your extensive explanation. Sorry for have taken your time on basics, but my/our understanding have at least increased.
Håkan
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17-01-2018, 18:50
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#152
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Location: Boston, MA
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
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Originally Posted by bdbcat
Rick...
It is understood and correct that the "A" toggle does not work in standard mode.
But the question is: Do Anchorage Areas show in Standard Mode, as they always should?
Thanks
Dave
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No, It does not. See screenshots. First one's are Standard.
Last one is Mariner's with Anchor info showing.
git fetched and compiled 1.17.18 3:32 EST
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17-01-2018, 19:39
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#153
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
Using the anchorage area by Hospital Point, Portsmouth Va as a test, I find that the feature works as "advertised" on Linux.
"A" works with "All" but not with "Standard". The anchorage is however always visible in "Standard".
Is this a Windows 10 thing?
Thomas
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18-01-2018, 07:28
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#154
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
Dear Thomas, I am  of course it is a Windows "thing"! What else would it be? If we must characterize OS, they all have certain traits....
I am not so sure this is worth figuring out, but then it is Standard Mode, and that means there are certain expectations about the Anchor elements, they should be shown I guess.
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18-01-2018, 08:01
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#155
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Marine Service Provider
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
Rick...
I think your results are as expected.
The first 3 shots are in STANDARD model. There are no ACHARE nor ACHBRT features at the location shown. The CBLSUB features are not shown in STANDARD mode.
The last shot, in ALL mode, shows the CBLSUB features.
Try a spot with a known ACHARE, like attached Newport, RI, cm93
Thanks
Dave
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18-01-2018, 09:52
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#156
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
When you have already fixed this pink hat! or add a setting to turn off!
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18-01-2018, 10:01
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#157
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Marine Service Provider
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
Baikal...
If you look at Object Query, you may see that the pink crosses are mostly underwater obstructions with depth less than surrounding depth area. Sometimes least depth is known, sometimes not.
In either case, the obstruction should be shown always, since it may be a significant hazard to navigation.
Thanks
Dave
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18-01-2018, 12:49
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#158
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Join Date: Feb 2011
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
Quote:
Originally Posted by bdbcat
Rick...
I think your results are as expected.
The first 3 shots are in STANDARD model. There are no ACHARE nor ACHBRT features at the location shown. The CBLSUB features are not shown in STANDARD mode.
The last shot, in ALL mode, shows the CBLSUB features.
Try a spot with a known ACHARE, like attached Newport, RI, cm93
Thanks
Dave
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In Windows 10, Ver OpenCpn 4.8.0 it is well shown.
Thanks
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18-01-2018, 18:18
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#159
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Location: Boston, MA
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
Quote:
Rick...
I think your results are as expected.
The first 3 shots are in STANDARD model. There are no ACHARE nor ACHBRT features at the location shown. The CBLSUB features are not shown in STANDARD mode.
The last shot, in ALL mode, shows the CBLSUB features.
Try a spot with a known ACHARE, like attached Newport, RI, cm93
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Dave, I just learned something. Thanks. Sorry about the confusion. --Tried Newport, and anchorages turned on and off.
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18-01-2018, 22:05
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#160
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
Quote:
Originally Posted by bdbcat
Baikal...
If you look at Object Query, you may see that the pink crosses are mostly underwater obstructions with depth less than surrounding depth area. Sometimes least depth is known, sometimes not.
In either case, the obstruction should be shown always, since it may be a significant hazard to navigation.
Thanks
Dave
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Is it possible to add an option in the map settings to disable the pink crosses?
Or how to take into account the shallow water parameters, safe depth, depth, draft of the ship?
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19-01-2018, 05:31
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#161
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baikal
Is it possible to add an option in the map settings to disable the pink crosses?
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This symbol is a part of the new ENC standard. Just get used to it! Personally I can't see anything terribly wrong with it, and I'm looking at it every day.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baikal
Or how to take into account the shallow water parameters, safe depth, depth, draft of the ship?
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Have a look at the manual https://opencpn.org/wiki/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=opencpn pencpn_user_manual:charts:vec tor_display_tab, scroll down to "Shallow, Safety and Deep depths
Safety Contour", where you will find an example of just how depth is taken into account when displaying the magenta cross.
Thomas
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19-01-2018, 05:56
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#162
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Location: Boston, MA
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
Thomas, we're changing gradually over to Titles like this
====Shallows ====
in the wiki, because you can get a link direct to the titles (the chain symbol that appears at the end of the title) down in the document, like this.
https://opencpn.org/wiki/dokuwiki/do...nd_deep_depths
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19-01-2018, 08:13
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#163
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Location: Baikal
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
All the same the desired setting off isolated dangers
Whoever wanted to do this
Here's a comparison in CPN and MaxSea TimeZero
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19-01-2018, 08:17
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#164
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Location: Tierra del Fuego
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
Bikal...
OpenCPN complies with S57 presentation standard here, while MaxSea does not. Information you receive is the same, isn't it?
We DO understand you personally do not like the isolated danger symbology as defined by this new version of the standard, you have already repeated it several times.
Pavel
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23-01-2018, 00:38
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#165
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: South Norway
Boat: Motiva 39-2
Posts: 24
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 4.8.10109
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baikal
Is it possible to add an option in the map settings to disable the pink crosses?
Or how to take into account the shallow water parameters, safe depth, depth, draft of the ship?
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Yes it is, but it's wise.
With a Safety Depth of 2 m, is amost of the pink crosses are away, but not the ones in
depht area. 2 to 5m
With a Safety Depth of 1m is all the pink crosses away and you are on guard on the bridge without the help of the pink friends.
Undo my miserable English
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