Call for Help/ This American Life (Merged)

[accomplice]

letsgetsailing, I don't deny that risks exist (I suffered a serious head injury racing a C&C44 27 years ago), but, knock-on-wood, in 40 years on the water there was only that one time that I needed to seek emergency medical treatment for self or crew. On land, we several times have needed medical assistance (and I live with a doctor!) for illness or injury. I worry more about a serious injury while my five children are bicycling on the streets in the rural town where we live than about a serious injury while cruising.

As far as minor injuries, resupplying the first aid-kit tells the tale. We go through more bandages at home in a week for skinned knees or sprains than while cruising. Personally, I stub my toes more on the boat, but I think that says more about my clumsiness than anything else. I have found that the only minor "injury" that happens more frequently while cruising is sunburn -- and you'd think that would be easily preventable.

Dangers abound while on the boat -- losing someone overboard chief among them -- but dangers are everywhere at home too. Experience shows that the zipline in the back-yard or wet tile in on the mudroom floor have caused more ambulance rides than anything on the boat. Yes, one could get ones fingers caught in a line on a winch, but instead I've had to take my daughter to multiple specialists when she closed her hand in a car door.

[letsgetsailing3]

Originally Posted by accomplice

letsgetsailing, I don't deny that risks exist (I suffered a serious head injury racing a C&C44 27 years ago), but, knock-on-wood, in 40 years on the water there was only that one time that I needed to seek emergency medical treatment for self or crew. On land, we several times have needed medical assistance (and I live with a doctor!) for illness or injury. I worry more about a serious injury while my five children are bicycling on the streets in the rural town where we live than about a serious injury while cruising.

I started a new thread to discuss this, as it has nothing at all to do with Rebel Heart.

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...nd-127999.html

[Stu Jackson]

Snow skiing is more dangerous than boating. And many people who go skiing stay in houses overnight.

[letsgetsailing3]

Originally Posted by Stu Jackson

Snow skiing is more dangerous than boating. And many people who go skiing stay in houses overnight.

Are you kidding me?

My response is in the other thread.

[Andrew B.]

Originally Posted by letsgetsailing3

I started a new thread to discuss this, as it has nothing at all to do with Rebel Heart.

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...nd-127999.html

And I just read your first post in that new thread.
Since you confirmed your true colors by bringing Obamacare into the debate
I am ignoring it. I can only hope the others in this debate do so to.

You have put words into other peoples mouths countless times in your
incessant efforts to prove a point, yet have not offered any statistical data to back up your claim.

To the best of my recollection no one in this debate as denied that cruising
with children can be dangerous. The only debate I see is to how much.

Your claim is that it is inherently more dangerous than many other
childhood activities. I say your entitled to your opinion, but unless,and until
you back it up with the appropriate statistics your opinion is no more valid
than those that disagree with your claim.

Maybe you need to take your soapbox to the Colregs committee and
whine until the Ralph Nader types agree to regulations regarding cruising
with children that make you feel safer.

What makes you a better parent than those that have a different perception of sailing with their children.

[Scottuk]

[QUOTE][Since you confirmed your true colors by bringing Obamacare into the debate
I am ignoring it./QUOTE]

Aren't you just full of yourself! If it is so bad maybe you should exercise your freedum and leave.

Excuse me for the digression from the topic.

[Andrew B.]

[QUOTE=Scottuk;1565451]

[Since you confirmed your true colors by bringing Obamacare into the debate
I am ignoring it./QUOTE]

Aren't you just full of yourself! If it is so bad maybe you should exercise your freedum and leave.

Excuse me for the digression from the topic.

Maybe you should learn to spell, and compose a intelligent sentence, if possible.
He dragged socialism into his unfounded claim, not me.

Maybe you should exercise your reading skills, and get caught up on the
debate before you offer a nasty opinion...
And I will continue to exercise my freedom of speech. But thanks for the rude offer.

[letsgetsailing3]

[QUOTE=Andrew B.;1565462]

Originally Posted by Scottuk

Maybe you should exercise your reading skills,

Maybe you should exercise yours. I didn't make the claim you mention in any way, shape, or form.

[Scottuk]

Misspelling was intentional. The poster brought up what you deemed 'socialism' in another thread. Your post in this thread was rude and offensive and your surprised somebody took offense and responded in kind? This is an exercise in intellectual midgitry.

[Scottuk]

LGS3, your post appears to misquote me. The quote should be attributed to Andrew B.

[letsgetsailing3]

Originally Posted by Scottuk

LGS3, your post appears to misquote me. The quote should be attributed to Andrew B.

Sorry about the way that came out. Cut and paste error.

[Scottuk]

No worries.

[smackdaddy]

The most important aspect of this whole cautionary tale from the RH blog:

It has been handy to have a bag of frozen peas this week as Eric recovers from his vasectomy, but other than that, meh?

Neutered. Ouch. Remind me to go down with the ship. Heh-heh.

[S/V Alchemy]

Originally Posted by smackdaddy

The most important aspect of this whole cautionary tale from the RH blog:



Neutered. Ouch. Remind me to go down with the ship. Heh-heh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBccr-aLu4I

Cruising takes balls.

[Palarran]

Originally Posted by accomplice

Statistics

Thanks. I'm not sure how it compares on a per child per hour but regardless, I'm surprised. I'll leave this subject alone now but one last comment. I told my kids about this subject and they thought it was hilarious. Their view is no comparison, I'll let you guess which way.