Medical Marijuana

[hellosailor]

Peter-
"Why smoke a mind altering drug to treat blood pressure when there are a ton of legal drugs that do the job very well and also a lot of non hallucinogenic natural treatments as well??"
You destroy your own argument. First, because pot is NOT a hallucinogen. Unlike an acid trip or psilocybin, it will not give you hallucinations, although "street" pot may have hallucinogens mixed in. That you don't know the difference, says that you don't know the drug, or the real effects and issues involved.
Second, there are MANY strains of pot today. It has had more selective breeding done on it than possible any other crop. Some of those strains will blow you away in two tokes. Others, like the "Charlotte's Web" that is so prominent in the news as a medicine for children, will give you less of a buzz than a double espresso.


Reefer madness always was a lie. Coupla regular jugs of vodka for two weeks can give you some nasty dt's, and that's hallucinating. Coupla stone ponies stay toasted for two weeks...and they won't be seeing any spiders when they come down.


Every presidential commission, congressional study, anything that has looked objectively at legalizing pot over the last 40-50 years, has said the same thing. Legalize it, tax it, the criminal problems go away, the adulterants go away, the myths go away, and you've basically got more liquor sales, with less drunk driving.


Now, if you want hallucinogens, just take a walk in the southwest and pick some 'shrooms.


zeehag-
Those untrained, inexperienced, and generally non-credible quacks at the Mayo Clinic strongly disagree with your field research on pot. They say:
"Marijuana may cause low blood pressure. Caution is advised in people who have blood pressure disorders or those taking drugs or herbs and supplements that lower blood pressure"
http://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supp...y/HRB-20059701


I would suggest that their information is based on research wil UNadulterated pot, while your experience in the ER is with pot, and pot users, that may have any number of other issues distorting the picture. Causality and simultaneity and two very different animals. You experience with pot users is, probably, only from the latter.

[Kenomac]

Originally Posted by hellosailor

zeehag-
Those untrained, inexperienced, and generally non-credible quacks at the Mayo Clinic strongly disagree with your field research on pot. They say:
"Marijuana may cause low blood pressure. Caution is advised in people who have blood pressure disorders or those taking drugs or herbs and supplements that lower blood pressure"
Marijuana (Cannabis sativa) Safety - Mayo Clinic


I would suggest that their information is based on research wil UNadulterated pot, while your experience in the ER is with pot, and pot users, that may have any number of other issues distorting the picture. Causality and simultaneity and two very different animals. You experience with pot users is, probably, only from the latter.

The question presented was whether or not pot and a pothead belong on a boat. Neither one belongs.

But if anyone thinks it does.... Then go for it Dude and Dudette! But I doubt you'll get past the first port where it's not legal and then be crying about loosing your boat and how to come up with legal fees to get out of jail.

[roverhi]

Originally Posted by hellosailor

Peter-
"Why smoke a mind altering drug to treat blood pressure when there are a ton of legal drugs that do the job very well and also a lot of non hallucinogenic natural treatments as well??"
You destroy your own argument. First, because pot is NOT a hallucinogen. Unlike an acid trip or psilocybin, it will not give you hallucinations, although "street" pot may have hallucinogens mixed in. That you don't know the difference, says that you don't know the drug, or the real effects and issues involved.
Second, there are MANY strains of pot today. It has had more selective breeding done on it than possible any other crop. Some of those strains will blow you away in two tokes. Others, like the "Charlotte's Web" that is so prominent in the news as a medicine for children, will give you less of a buzz than a double espresso.


Reefer madness always was a lie. Coupla regular jugs of vodka for two weeks can give you some nasty dt's, and that's hallucinating. Coupla stone ponies stay toasted for two weeks...and they won't be seeing any spiders when they come down.


Every presidential commission, congressional study, anything that has looked objectively at legalizing pot over the last 40-50 years, has said the same thing. Legalize it, tax it, the criminal problems go away, the adulterants go away, the myths go away, and you've basically got more liquor sales, with less drunk driving.


Now, if you want hallucinogens, just take a walk in the southwest and pick some 'shrooms.


zeehag-
Those untrained, inexperienced, and generally non-credible quacks at the Mayo Clinic strongly disagree with your field research on pot. They say:
"Marijuana may cause low blood pressure. Caution is advised in people who have blood pressure disorders or those taking drugs or herbs and supplements that lower blood pressure"
Marijuana (Cannabis sativa) Safety - Mayo Clinic


I would suggest that their information is based on research wil UNadulterated pot, while your experience in the ER is with pot, and pot users, that may have any number of other issues distorting the picture. Causality and simultaneity and two very different animals. You experience with pot users is, probably, only from the latter.

Amazing that a substance that changes your perception of the world is not a Hallucinogen. Yes it does have some legitimate uses but they aren't all that many and certainly not the best way to treat most of them. Medical marajuana users are mostly using the 'Medical' part to legalize getting high.

Before you get bent out of shape, spent many a night in my youth laying on the floor listening to the Doors, Country Joe, Janice, J. Airplane, etc when they weren't oldies. Lived in a Packard Hearse for awhile in the Haight during the summer of love. Fortunately, rather than stay stoned and stupid found better things to do with my life. Putting marajuana in the same classification as heroin, Meth, etc and even alcohol is about the stupidest thing our stupid government has done. Feel that all drugs should be legalized. If people want to get high on whatever, let them but don't give organized crime a license to steal, murder and corrupt governments. And certainly don't use tax money to support their habits.

As far as bringing pot or any other illegal substance on your boat, it's utterly utterly stupid to do so. The risks are just too high if you or a crew member get busted. Have seen the negative effects of governments reactions to boats that have a reputation as drug boats whether justified or not. Trust me, you don't want to get on someones drug boat list.