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08-04-2013, 09:52
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cruising NC, FL, Bahamas, TCI & VIs
Boat: 1964 Pearson Ariel 'Faith' / Pearson 424, sv Emerald Tide
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Re: Arms on board?
Depends on where you are going.
Research by country here:
Noonsite.com
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08-04-2013, 10:09
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 449
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Re: Arms on board?
Looks like the OP is from US and consders sailing around US.
In such case, research the gun laws of the states you plan to transit/visit.
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08-04-2013, 10:21
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#19
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cruising NC, FL, Bahamas, TCI & VIs
Boat: 1964 Pearson Ariel 'Faith' / Pearson 424, sv Emerald Tide
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Re: Arms on board?
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Originally Posted by Soldierofortune
is there any specific requirements for having weapons on board a boat? I own a 7.62x54 Mosin bolt action sniper rifle, moss berg 500 pump tactical, 45 cal colt 1991 commander, a couple of machetes, knives, and one vintage katana (a gift from a very close friend. its a real one, but I use it for ornamental purposes. its not a deal breaker, but I'd just like to know what general opinion about that sort of thing is
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard_W
Looks like the OP is from US and consders sailing around US.
In such case, research the gun laws of the states you plan to transit/visit.
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I did not see any reference to location in the OP (still don't). Noonsite.com is a good reference for international policy, Handgunlaw.us is great for state by state research.
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08-04-2013, 10:25
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 449
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Re: Arms on board?
Not that it matters to me, but here it is ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soldierofortune
I don't have one yet, but planning to either sail or have my boat shipped to lake guntersville AL for a couple of years, then probably going to do some cruising on the US east coast
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Both linked sites are good resource for researching this matter ...
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08-04-2013, 10:29
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#21
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: La la Land
Boat: 37' Oyster Heritage
Posts: 416
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Re: Arms on board?
If you want arms onboard to make it worthwhile you better have this sort of boat
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08-04-2013, 10:56
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29° 49.16’ N 82° 25.82’ W
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 16,306
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Re: Arms on board?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Soldierofortune
I take it this has occurred before
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Not that often, only 200-300 times before. And it usually gets hot and the moderators have to close the thread.
Bottom line, even in the US it is a big legal hassled to travel state to state with guns. Overseas in some places it will get you locked up in a very nasty jail (think medieval dungeon complete with rats, nasty food with roaches and not much of it and I am NOT joking) for a very long time. Some countries it could be life.
If you can't leave home without a gun to feel safe you might be better off staying home or at least choose your destinations a little more carefully.
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The water is always bluer on the other side of the ocean.
Sometimes it's necessary to state the obvious for the benefit of the oblivious.
Rust is the poor man's Loctite.
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08-04-2013, 12:20
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#23
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Where the wind blows..
Boat: Prout Snowgoose 37
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Re: Arms on board?
Kind of on topic here...
I do cruise with at least a pistol on board, that is because my home waters are Alaska, and going ashore for hikes or beachcombing it is wise to be able to defend yourself from big brown furry critters. I carry a 44 magnum in stainless steel, with bear rounds for this purpose.
For any other purpose, it does seem silly, and unless they are stainless, guns and boats do not match well, as well as that Katana you mentioned. Blued guns and anything not very well protected from rust will turn into a ball of rust in the moist salt air on a boat pretty quickly.
The other posters are right, if I were going internationally, I would not be carrying anything due to the hassle.
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08-04-2013, 12:26
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#24
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Austin TX
Boat: Nimble Artic 26
Posts: 956
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Re: Arms on board?
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Nice gun, I'm sure some Immigration Cop in the first country you visit after leaving the US will enjoy keeping it and your boat while you and your crew spend the next twenty or so years in jail.
http://www.classicfirearms.com/lng-m91-30-nagant
It'll save them 120 bucks.
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Re: Arms on board?
Hey you guys,
I'm not a gun person, and have been cruising internationally for 26 years now with no firearms on board, so you can guess my personal feelings here!
But, the OP asked a politely phrased question, and has accepted your overwhelmingly negative responses with his thanks... why are you being so snotty ?
Don't know what he will do in the end, but he deserves some respect for his attitude IMO.
Cheers,
Jim
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08-04-2013, 20:04
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Location: Virginia, USA & Krabi, Thailand
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skipmac
Not that often, only 200-300 times before. And it usually gets hot and the moderators have to close the thread.
Bottom line, even in the US it is a big legal hassled to travel state to state with guns. Overseas in some places it will get you locked up in a very nasty jail (think medieval dungeon complete with rats, nasty food with roaches and not much of it and I am NOT joking) for a very long time. Some countries it could be life.
If you can't leave home without a gun to feel safe you might be better off staying home or at least choose your destinations a little more carefully.
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On the positive side you forgot to mention all the new friends meet in those jails. :-)
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08-04-2013, 20:08
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Re: Arms on board?
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Originally Posted by Jim Cate
Hey you guys,
I'm not a gun person, and have been cruising internationally for 26 years now with no firearms on board, so you can guess my personal feelings here!
But, the OP asked a politely phrased question, and has accepted your overwhelmingly negative responses with his thanks... why are you being so snotty ?
Don't know what he will do in the end, but he deserves some respect for his attitude IMO.
Cheers,
Jim
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Agreed Jim. I felt the OP was extremely respectful and courteous to all.
I'm not picking on anyone because Mama long ago taught me how to get along with others. But why does it seem that it's usually the same posters that say they're tired of the same threads that are always the ones that respond? I could list off a dozen recurring thread subjects I personally consider a waste of my time from recipes to Kardashian look alike boat chicks needed. But somehow I've been able to resist the temptation to click on them and easily move on. I just don't get it. If someone wants to discuss guns and another doesn't, then simply don't.
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08-04-2013, 20:57
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Boat: Dragonfly 1000 trimaran
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Re: Arms on board?
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Originally Posted by sestina
If you want arms onboard to make it worthwhile you better have this sort of boat
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And if you want effective tributyltin bottom paint to make it worthwhile, you better have this sort of boat.
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08-04-2013, 21:06
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Seattle WA
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Re: Arms on board?
Why would you want a Mosin on a boat? If its really a stock sniper variant (extremely unlikely), then it's valuable and it would be a shame to ruin it by keeping it on a boat. If not, then it's the worlds cheapest crappiest bolt rifle, and pretty useless aboard except for plinking. Nagants are good for that because of the cheap ammo. For east coast US, keep the 1911 and ditch the rest. I'd say keep the shotgun as a practical tool for hunting too, but it's a Tacti-cool, and therefore useless for anything but home defense.
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08-04-2013, 21:30
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
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Re: Arms on board?
Soldier
Just stay within US territorial waters and obey state laws.
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