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Old 30-11-2019, 05:05   #1006
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We have spent the day heading ENE - keeping a true wind angle of about 140-150. Essentially we are trying to make best VMG (fastest speed) east to position ourselves well for when the wind tracks right around to the north east. This has already begun. We started the day yesterday with a wind direction of 270 and it is now (0500 UT-1) 295. We expect by tomorrow morning it will have gone to the right of north, and we should be pointing straight at Lisbon by lunchtime.
It's always about VMG. Calculating that along a curve requires surface integration but if you break the curve up into line segments simple, beautiful trigonometry does nicely. SOH CAH TOA and the trigonometric tribe.
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As we participants of this thread can celebrate more than 1000 postings,
...our friends on LA VAGABONDE can celebrate a new speed record; 23.8 knots

The following fresh update from Nikki Henderson's Facebook also contains a "Weather Routing for Dummies" explanation on why it makes sense not to sail the straight rhumb line from A to B, but rather follow a "ridiculous curve of 100 extra miles"
I must say it is a delight to follow the blogs of this competent young sailor who excels also with her highly readable writing skills!

At 1115 GMT today 30 November they're heading east towards the NW corner of Spain, with a boat speed of 10.4 knots. Rhumb line distance to Cascais marina is 563 nautical miles.


"I was saddened to hear about the terror attack in London yesterday - and the anger that is so prevalent."

What an absolute piece of ****.

She's a nut. Saddened at the prevalent anger by Brits at the horror of their countrymen being murdered on the streets?

This attitude, where does it come from where you hate your own people!?!

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Exactly, I don't need or care for armchair coaching. I just want to learn from this. Unfortunately, we only get to see the models (on Windy or PredictWind), not the actual conditions. But it is an interesting exercise nevertheless.



Because they have very limited bandwith, so they are using text and a lowres picture vs posting ... videos? Remember they are using an Iridium GO, not a fullblown sat connection. Iridium GO has a way to post to IG and FB with the low bandwith.


They will be emailing and having someone else update their IG. It is not possible to upload to IG from an Iridium Go. Twitter yes. Facebook yes via something like ITTT but Instagram no.
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"I was saddened to hear about the terror attack in London yesterday - and the anger that is so prevalent."

What an absolute piece of ****.

She's a nut. Saddened at the prevalent anger by Brits at the horror of their countrymen being murdered on the streets?

This attitude, where does it come from where you hate your own people!?!

Sick. Done.
Attitude problem and reading dissability?
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Unfortunately, we only get to see the models (on Windy or PredictWind), not the actual conditions.
Yea, often I can get back actual condition logs every 4 hours (uploaded when model updates are downloaded) and that is lovely - a very useful feedback loop. Nice pictures of sky and sea are also lovely/useful - but more bandwidth.

Sort of related to that - when they get in I would be interested in their breakage list and motor hours. But we may not hear those details because they are not very sexy.
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Predict Wind models are sometimes very different than local conditions.
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Sort of related to that - when they get in I would be interested in their breakage list and motor hours. But we may not hear those details because they are not very sexy.
These details really don't fit into the prevailing storyline even in an asexual way
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Catching the direct night train to Madrid on Monday at 21:34 will be quite challenging. Probably not realisitc, right? What is the current ETA?
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Catching the direct night train to Madrid on Monday at 21:34 will be quite challenging. Probably not realisitc, right? What is the current ETA?
There is going to be some significant 'messing about' even once they arrive - will have to clear in and get the boat settled.

Boaty - how is the clearance process in Lisbon for non-eu boat, run all over town or pretty compact and efficient?
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If they go into Cascais it will all be done in the marina office.. I believe theres only 1 non EU person on board and he is an Aussie.. Easy Peasy.
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There is going to be some significant 'messing about' even once they arrive - will have to clear in and get the boat settled.

Boaty - how is the clearance process in Lisbon for non-eu boat, run all over town or pretty compact and efficient?
I would put money, given the visibility of the climate conference, that C&I will be on the dock waiting for them. Certainly if the shore contingent is on their toes. We see that even for niche rallies all the time. Easy for this boat.

Noonsite (https://www.noonsite.com/place/portugal/formalities/) makes it look pretty easy in a couple of Lisbon marinas. It reads like C&I shows up and uses a marina office or conference room for the formalities. Shore support with their act together they'll get processed on board on arrival. Having comms on board makes all the timing that much easier.
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I would put money, given the visibility of the climate conference, that C&I will be on the dock waiting for them. Certainly if the shore contingent is on their toes. We see that even for niche rallies all the time. Easy for this boat.

Noonsite (https://www.noonsite.com/place/portugal/formalities/) makes it look pretty easy in a couple of Lisbon marinas. It reads like C&I shows up and uses a marina office or conference room for the formalities. Shore support with their act together they'll get processed on board on arrival. Having comms on board makes all the timing that much easier.
Cascais have the C&I office in the building..
Basically its enter the channel behind the breakwater and tie up at the Reception pontoon just past the fueling pontoon, stroll up the gangway and straight into the offices.. done and dusted in half an hour.. unless theres a boat or two ahead in the queue..
Much like Horta in the Azores.
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stroll up the gangway and straight into the offices.. done and dusted in half an hour..
Nice.

I always enjoyed the officials in the Azores - very nice attitude very pleasant and civilized but also doing the job carefully.
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Cascais have the C&I office in the building..
Basically its enter the channel behind the breakwater and tie up at the Reception pontoon just past the fueling pontoon, stroll up the gangway and straight into the offices.. done and dusted in half an hour.. unless theres a boat or two ahead in the queue..
Much like Horta in the Azores.
So the only issue is whether someone will organize an out-of-hours processing.

Horta is one of the easiest I ever do. I did wonder why La Vagabonde didn't stop in Horta for C&I - then they'd be done.
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From the looks of it they're due for some N'ly winds 20 to 35kts so likely they'll have a lumpy last day or two.. just have to watch for all the fish/crab buoys as they come in past Cabo Roca.. reckon it'll be a Monday arrival if its just over 500nm to go..
If after 2000hrs just tie up at the Recption, tidy the boat and get their heads down till 0800hrs.
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