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07-03-2020, 13:23
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#136
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Australia
Boat: Milkraft 60 ex trawler
Posts: 4,651
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Re: Computer for navigation
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Originally Posted by Mr B
$50-00 second hand refurbished HP laptop with 500 GB of memory,
I put a Telstra Dongle with Sim card in it, Plugs into the USB port,
Dedicated to my Free Open CPN for navigation, Back up for my GPS with C maps,
But also gives me the full internet, emails Etc,
I take it home with me and it runs my PC as well, I also use it in my RV where ever I go,
I bought it for the Kimberlys as only Telstra has a service up there,
Its line of site, Doesnt work over the horizon,
Same Reception as a cell phone,
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Living aboard for 4 years simply using my $40 android mobile as a hotspot for the whole boat.
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07-03-2020, 17:47
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#137
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Australia
Boat: BUILT!!! Roberts Mauritius 43ft
Posts: 4,108
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Re: Computer for navigation
I've just installed a SSD in my Toughbook and now trying to familiarise myself with it. I am very happy with the readability of the screen in daylight.
Now to work out how to install AIS. Maybe I'm mistaken that an AIS receiver is incredibly important but a sender very much less so?
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08-03-2020, 04:20
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#138
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Norfolk, VA USA
Posts: 723
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Re: Computer for navigation
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Originally Posted by coopec43
Maybe I'm mistaken that an AIS receiver is incredibly important but a sender very much less so?
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Well, as long as no one else thinks that way ... then sure. Everyone else will have a [working] transmitter and you will see them all - and you can avoid them.
But what if a lot of others think the same way and few to no one has a transmitter? Then you have a lot of boats looking for a signal that isn't there. But surely the "other guy" has a transmitter ... right?
Maybe.
Maybe not.
Don't get me wrong: a receiver is better than nothing. But a transceiver is better than that.
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08-03-2020, 04:43
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#139
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Australia
Boat: BUILT!!! Roberts Mauritius 43ft
Posts: 4,108
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Re: Computer for navigation
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Originally Posted by SeanPatrick
Well, as long as no one else thinks that way ... then sure. Everyone else will have a [working] transmitter and you will see them all - and you can avoid them.
But what if a lot of others think the same way and few to no one has a transmitter? Then you have a lot of boats looking for a signal that isn't there. But surely the "other guy" has a transmitter ... right?
Maybe.
Maybe not.
Don't get me wrong: a receiver is better than nothing. But a transceiver is better than that.
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I certainly won't argue with you but it is the fast moving ships that would worry me but they would all have AIS transmitters. Slow moving yachts would worry me so much. I wonder what percentage would have AIS transmitters anyway?
" Is AIS worth fitting?
Leisure craft installing AIS can opt for two different routes. A simple receiver to monitor other vessels’ AIS data is inexpensive and easy to fit. Alternatively you can install a class B transponder which will also transmit your vessel’s data to other craft equipped with an AIS receiver.
Having used AIS B for more than 8,000 miles of sailing over the past two seasons, including a circumnavigation of the British Isles, a dozen English Channel crossings, and a passage to the Azores, I now regard it as one of the most useful gadgets on board.
Thanks for your advice
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08-03-2020, 05:58
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#140
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Lower Chesapeake Bay Area
Boat: Bristol 27
Posts: 10,918
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Re: Computer for navigation
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Originally Posted by coopec43
I certainly won't argue with you but it is the fast moving ships that would worry me but they would all have AIS transmitters. Slow moving yachts would worry me so much. I wonder what percentage would have AIS transmitters anyway?
" Is AIS worth fitting?
Leisure craft installing AIS can opt for two different routes. A simple receiver to monitor other vessels’ AIS data is inexpensive and easy to fit. Alternatively you can install a class B transponder which will also transmit your vessel’s data to other craft equipped with an AIS receiver.
Having used AIS B for more than 8,000 miles of sailing over the past two seasons, including a circumnavigation of the British Isles, a dozen English Channel crossings, and a passage to the Azores, I now regard it as one of the most useful gadgets on board.
Thanks for your advice
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I haven't sailed since I've hooked up AIS, but I like it already because I can see the ships in the two shipping channels before I even leave the dock.
I have it coming in to the Raspberry Pi via a USB RS422/485 Adapter from my SH GX2200 VHF/AIS/GPS then onto the OpenCPN Chart
Green is the Pilot Boat. He's probably going out to get the Pilot off. Ship yellow coming out......he's almost out of the bay and into the Atlantic.
Tide/current is going out.
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08-03-2020, 07:54
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#141
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: On Vessel WINGS, wherever there's an ocean, currently in Mexico
Boat: Serendipity 43
Posts: 5,549
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Re: Computer for navigation
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Originally Posted by coopec43
I've just installed a SSD in my Toughbook and now trying to familiarise myself with it. I am very happy with the readability of the screen in daylight.
Now to work out how to install AIS. Maybe I'm mistaken that an AIS receiver is incredibly important but a sender very much less so?
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Obviously a receiver helps YOU avoid them. A transmitter helps THEM avoid you.
I want ships, yachts, anything, to know I am there, my speed and direction, and my ship's name.
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08-03-2020, 10:54
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#142
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: puɐןsuǝǝnb 'ʎɐʞɔɐɯ
Boat: Nantucket Island 33
Posts: 4,876
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Re: Computer for navigation
I've got an AIS transceiver on my boat and I love those that just have receivers. And you can always tell who has a receiver only. They're the one's that seem to actively keep out of your way even when they would otherwise be the stand on vessel.
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08-03-2020, 11:46
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#143
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Lower Chesapeake Bay Area
Boat: Bristol 27
Posts: 10,918
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Re: Computer for navigation
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Originally Posted by Reefmagnet
I've got an AIS transceiver on my boat and I love those that just have receivers. And you can always tell who has a receiver only. They're the one's that seem to actively keep out of your way even when they would otherwise be the stand on vessel.
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Receive only is a big step up for those of us used to being without AIS especially those of us Coastal Cruising and dealing with shipping traffic
The ship in the picture outbound is already up to 17.3 knots and he has just now gotten outside the CBBT (Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel)
I wish I had waited for the system to update before I took the picture and then we would know if it was a tanker or container ship plus a few other details .....it was a container ship. (YM Evolution) I looked up his MMSI Number. Draught 12.1 meters
https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais...ssel:416490000
When they are coming in at that speed they can pop out from behind the Tunnel Islands and be right on you if you are not paying attention
Receive only AIS is still a very nice thing to have.....
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08-03-2020, 12:23
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#144
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Lake City MN
Boat: C&C 27 Mk III
Posts: 2,647
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Re: Computer for navigation
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Originally Posted by Simi 60
So is an android tablet that does all that plus has inbuilt GPS without the need of a sim card or data connection all for about 1 tenth of the price.
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Even my first gen iPad has Wi-Fi and gps no data plan or SIM card required. Just pick one that does have gps as not all models do.
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08-03-2020, 21:25
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#145
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Onboard.... currently Shipyard
Boat: Burger, RPH 90'
Posts: 18
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Re: Computer for navigation
SSD. 1TB Drive just bought one for $100. Now replacing all spinning disk... on the other two laptops. I bought then on ebay from Memory labs. I am using old laps for various functions on board. I am looking at using Rose Point's Coastal Explorer to augment the Garmin 7212. That you cannot connect to your computer.... at least I cannot. I put a cheap planner touch screen computer monitor in the pilothouse connected to a laptop.
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08-03-2020, 22:49
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#146
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Australia
Boat: BUILT!!! Roberts Mauritius 43ft
Posts: 4,108
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Re: Computer for navigation
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Originally Posted by Fair_Skies
SSD. 1TB Drive just bought one for $100. Now replacing all spinning disk... on the other two laptops. I bought then on ebay from Memory labs. I am using old laps for various functions on board. I am looking at using Rose Point's Coastal Explorer to augment the Garmin 7212. That you cannot connect to your computer.... at least I cannot. I put a cheap planner touch screen computer monitor in the pilothouse connected to a laptop.
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You won't believe how much of a difference an SSD makes to response times! I put one in my desktop and one in my (navigation) Toughbook and both computers are virtually instantaneous.
Anyone thinking of installing an SSD make sure you get the correct SSD for your brand/model computer. I say that because there are a whole lot of sellers on eBay offering XXX SSD "packet opened- never used"
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09-03-2020, 03:18
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#147
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Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Denmark (Winter), Cruising North Sea and Baltic (Summer)
Boat: Cutter-Rigged Moody 54
Posts: 35,023
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Re: Computer for navigation
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Originally Posted by wingssail
Obviously a receiver helps YOU avoid them. A transmitter helps THEM avoid you.
I want ships, yachts, anything, to know I am there, my speed and direction, and my ship's name.
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Transmitting is not "less so" but "incredibly important". Believe me, you very much want them to see you.
The OP can buy an AIS transceiver which he can connect via wifi.
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I behold from the beach your crooked inviting fingers,
I believe you refuse to go back without feeling of me;
We must have a turn together . . . . I undress . . . . hurry me out of sight of the land,
Cushion me soft . . . . rock me in billowy drowse,
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11-03-2020, 08:33
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#149
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: FLL
Posts: 81
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Re: Computer for navigation
When not in use as a laptop, it makes a wonderful anchor.
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12-03-2020, 04:45
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#150
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Australia
Boat: BUILT!!! Roberts Mauritius 43ft
Posts: 4,108
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Re: Computer for navigation
Quote:
Originally Posted by aeronautic1
When not in use as a laptop, it makes a wonderful anchor.
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I'm not sure what you are getting at. Have you had a bad experience with Toughbooks?
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