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30-07-2020, 16:03
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
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Originally Posted by kmacdonald
I've used both in the northern Chesapeake and both plow in the silt and soft muck. South of the Bay Bridge is fine and never a problem with either. Mud in chain? Get rid of the chain in the bay.
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I guess get rid of chain, and then you have to grab jellyfish slimed rode to weigh anchor.
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30-07-2020, 17:49
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#62
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
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Originally Posted by malbert73
I watch everyone else struggle with deckwashes and take twice as long to stow their anchor gear clean
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Who would have thought using a garden hose could be so difficult to use. (-;
Wife stands at bow aiming stream at chain
I press toggle and chain comes in
She does hand signal to stop and go if chain needs a bit extra.
Simple.
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30-07-2020, 17:57
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
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Originally Posted by Simi 60
Who would have thought using a garden hose could be so difficult to use. (-;
Wife stands at bow aiming stream at chain
I press toggle and chain comes in
She does hand signal to stop and go if chain needs a bit extra.
Simple.
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Don't confuse me.
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30-07-2020, 17:58
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
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Originally Posted by malbert73
I guess get rid of chain, and then you have to grab jellyfish slimed rode to weigh anchor.
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They can't sting your hands. Skin to tough on hands.
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30-07-2020, 18:33
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
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Originally Posted by Simi 60
Who would have thought using a garden hose could be so difficult to use. (-;
Wife stands at bow aiming stream at chain
I press toggle and chain comes in
She does hand signal to stop and go if chain needs a bit extra.
Simple.
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Exactly what we do.
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30-07-2020, 19:38
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
My method is similar too. Except I've got a remote for the windlass, so remote in one hand, hose in the other and hand signals for engine use.
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30-07-2020, 20:17
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
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Originally Posted by CarinaPDX
The worst experience I had was from a small island town in the PNW, which had me pulling out all 300' of chain and stretching it out on the dock in a pouring rain to clean it, as well as the anchor locker itself.
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Ouch. Do you remember what town was it?
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30-07-2020, 21:02
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
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Originally Posted by Lost Horizons
Ouch. Do you remember what town was it?
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It was one of the popular spots in the Gulf islands, back in the early '90s. But the memory is not that great - I don't remember which one. Sorry
Greg
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30-07-2020, 21:21
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
Oh, those Canadians...
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30-07-2020, 21:43
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
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Originally Posted by CarinaPDX
It was one of the popular spots in the Gulf islands, back in the early '90s. But the memory is not that great - I don't remember which one. Sorry
Greg
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Well the only real town at all in the Canadian Southern Gulf Islands is Ganges on Salt Spring.
While any effluent there would be largely Canadian, The smelly mud has nothing really to do with sewage. Stinking mud exists all over and is largely related to the amount of organic matter in the muck. Have a read of this
https://www.wired.com/2015/06/gives-...-making-algae/
Nick
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30-07-2020, 22:03
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
I'm wondering if the intermittent or surging chain motion associated with a manual windlass might help "wash" the chain during retrieval.
Been retrieving a LOT of chain with a manual windlass for about 40 years. Never have had much on the chain other than (clean) weeds.
Steve
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30-07-2020, 23:06
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
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Originally Posted by groundtackle
Well the only real town at all in the Canadian Southern Gulf Islands is Ganges on Salt Spring.
While any effluent there would be largely Canadian, The smelly mud has nothing really to do with sewage. Stinking mud exists all over and is largely related to the amount of organic matter in the muck. Have a read of this
https://www.wired.com/2015/06/gives-...-making-algae/
Nick
Might
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Interesting article. Yes, I looked at Google Earth and I think it was the southern anchorage at Ganges. While the smell there may be explained by the algae, it is not the only source elsewhere. As you wrote, it is the organic matter in the muck. IIUC the lack of available oxygen in that muck prevents normal decay from occurring, which takes off when exposed to air. Stinky mud is common off old cities, but of course the organic matter includes everything that gets flushed down a sewer, not just human waste.
BTW no offense intended to Canadians: sometimes I can discern the different accents but probably not the smell of s***.
Greg
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30-07-2020, 23:28
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
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Originally Posted by Panope
I'm wondering if the intermittent or surging chain motion associated with a manual windlass might help "wash" the chain during retrieval.
Been retrieving a LOT of chain with a manual windlass for about 40 years. Never have had much on the chain other than (clean) weeds.
Steve
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Interesting. I anchored at a dozen or so places around San Juans and Puget Sound so far and had mud on the chain everywhere except one or maybe two places. Tried to run the chain back and forth on retrieval with not much success in shacking the mud off. Anchor is not an issue, I pull it through the water for a minute or two while leaving the anchorage and it cleans it up. The chain, however, is bringing the dirt into the bilge where my anchor chain locker drains.
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31-07-2020, 00:25
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Panope
I'm wondering if the intermittent or surging chain motion associated with a manual windlass might help "wash" the chain during retrieval.
Been retrieving a LOT of chain with a manual windlass for about 40 years. Never have had much on the chain other than (clean) weeds.
Steve
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Nope. I wish I could say that is the case. Ha ha.
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31-07-2020, 04:57
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#75
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Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)
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Originally Posted by Simi 60
Who would have thought using a garden hose could be so difficult to use. (-;
Wife stands at bow aiming stream at chain
I press toggle and chain comes in
She does hand signal to stop and go if chain needs a bit extra.
Simple.
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Lol. Yes easy. And I have foot buttons with my Lewmar windlass so plenty of hands free.
But, I found it took a lot of pausing and detailed hose work to aim between the links and get the tougher clumps of mud out. When I switched to the boat hook method the shaking back and forth took care of the mud more easily and completely. Anyway to each his own. I just mention because I had the deck wash, I think I’m reasonably coordinated with a hose, and on my setup found shaking the chain easier.
You do need someone to drive up as chain is retrieved so it’s mostly vertical and not under tension but that’s good practice anyway
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