Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 26-07-2020, 08:52   #1
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2018
Boat: I can’t use epoxy. Please don’t suggest it. It can kill me. 50’ performance cat
Posts: 3,097
Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)

I bough a well used 80lb Rocna anchor a CF member didn’t want anymore. It was too big for his boat.

I had my 80lb Manson Supreme stolen off the bow of my boat in Typical Florida style.

Can I trust the Rocna as much as the Manson Supreme, which held while the eye of a category 4 hurricane passed over my boat?

Hate to have that little feeling in the back of my head thinking about if my anchor is good enough.

200’ chain, bridle, etc... more about the actual anchor.
Chotu is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2020, 08:54   #2
Registered User

Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Port Aransas, Texas
Boat: 2019 Seawind 1160 Lite
Posts: 1,724
Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)

I think they are both excellent anchors. We had a traditional Rocna on the last boat, and now a Vulcan on the new boat. I don't think the Vulcan sets as easily as the roll-bar Rocna, but it seems to hold as well. We have never dragged with either.
sailjumanji is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2020, 11:54   #3
Registered User

Join Date: May 2011
Boat: Hitchhiker, Catamaran, 40'
Posts: 949
Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)

The Rocna is just as good except in mud. The turned up edge of the Rocna keeps it from digging in as deep into soft mud.
Thumbs Up is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2020, 12:46   #4
Moderator
 
noelex 77's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Jul 2007
Boat: Bestevaer.
Posts: 12,226
Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)

They are both excellent anchors.

The Rocna is slightly better in my view.
noelex 77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2020, 13:07   #5
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2018
Boat: I can’t use epoxy. Please don’t suggest it. It can kill me. 50’ performance cat
Posts: 3,097
Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thumbs Up View Post
The Rocna is just as good except in mud. The turned up edge of the Rocna keeps it from digging in as deep into soft mud.
The Manson Supreme also has what Im thinking a turned up edge too, yes?

The whole fluke has a C-shape to it. And a roll bar.
Chotu is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2020, 14:18   #6
Registered User

Join Date: May 2011
Boat: Hitchhiker, Catamaran, 40'
Posts: 949
Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)



See the turned up back edge of the Rocna? It prevents it from setting deeper in mud.
Thumbs Up is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2020, 15:27   #7
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2018
Boat: I can’t use epoxy. Please don’t suggest it. It can kill me. 50’ performance cat
Posts: 3,097
Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thumbs Up View Post


See the turned up back edge of the Rocna? It prevents it from setting deeper in mud.
Oh, damn. I see the turned up lip youre talking about at the rear of the fluke.

Im in mud plenty. I got the wrong anchor? Ugh.

Maybe I should sell this and get another Manson Supreme?
Chotu is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2020, 15:28   #8
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: lakeville ma.
Boat: corbin39
Posts: 134
Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)

The supreme doesn't have a turned up back edge
B-Baysailer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2020, 15:33   #9
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: lakeville ma.
Boat: corbin39
Posts: 134
Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)

The supreme doesn't have a turned up back edge.i have a 45 and a 60 lb
B-Baysailer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2020, 16:03   #10
It is only boating
 
sailorboy1's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: currently in Jacksonville Fl
Boat: Hunter 410
Posts: 16,946
Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)

I have a Manson Supreme because I vowed I would never be a source of money for Peter. But I am sure a Rocna is a good anchor.

Personally I believe all anchors are good if you set them well.
__________________
jobless, houseless, clueless, living on a boat and cruising around somewhere
sailorboy1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2020, 16:30   #11
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: lakeville ma.
Boat: corbin39
Posts: 134
Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)

I'm with you on that one
B-Baysailer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2020, 16:35   #12
Registered User

Join Date: Jan 2018
Boat: I can’t use epoxy. Please don’t suggest it. It can kill me. 50’ performance cat
Posts: 3,097
Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)

Quote:
Originally Posted by B-Baysailer View Post
The supreme doesn't have a turned up back edge.i have a 45 and a 60 lb
Right. Which is why I should sell the Rocna and get another Manson Supreme if the Rocna struggles in mud.
Chotu is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2020, 17:52   #13
Marine Service Provider

Join Date: May 2011
Location: PDX
Boat: Gulfstar 50
Posts: 1,834
Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)

A question you should answer is where was the Rocne made. There was a period early when Rocna moved production to China that they were made from "very flexible steel".

Before that time Rocna were made of Bisplate 80 (like the Manson) which is 700 MPa steel. Then when the "Rocna Mess" (tm) was cleaned up the steel was changed to something less than Bisplate 80 but more the 400 MPa steel that slipped into production.

Old history... But then again I did return a "flexible" steel Rocna to West Marine.
evm1024 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2020, 18:02   #14
Senior Cruiser
 
skipmac's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: 29 49.16 N 82 25.82 W
Boat: Pearson 422
Posts: 14,897
Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)

I wouldn't lose any sleep over the Rocna. Spent weeks in a reversing tidal flow on a slightly undersized Rocna and never moved an inch. Also sat out a couple of gales and a nasty thunderstorm with the same. The only reason I'm not using it is because I switched to a larger Mantus.

If for whatever reason you just can't live with the Rocna and sell it I would go with the Mantus unless you wanted to spend big money and buy an Ultra.
__________________
The water is always bluer on the other side of the ocean.
Sometimes it's necessary to state the obvious for the benefit of the oblivious.
Rust is the poor man's Loctite.
skipmac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 26-07-2020, 18:07   #15
Registered User

Join Date: May 2011
Boat: Hitchhiker, Catamaran, 40'
Posts: 949
Re: Rocna or Manson Supreme? (OP Ducks His Head)

I have a Rocna. I use a Fortress for mud. Never tried a Manson. Rocna drug in Isla Mujeres.
Thumbs Up is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
head, rocna

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Manson Supreme or Rocna a64pilot Anchoring & Mooring 33 05-08-2014 05:40
Rocna vs Manson Supreme Anchors WP007 Anchoring & Mooring 70 23-07-2013 09:11
Want To Buy: WTB: 35lbs Manson Supreme or Rocna callmecrazy Classifieds Archive 0 05-02-2012 10:22

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:16.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.