What if chasing the dream means you have to give up a relationship?

[Pelagic]

Mon Ami!

I mentioned Francoise first, then Joshua and nowhere did I, nor Bernard, measure any levels.

Whenever there is a divorce, there is often an unhappy wife who feels she was never compensated enough and a frustrated man whose selfish drive and independence is now described as a weakness.

His family are still collecting royalties from his books, especially the last one that was published after his death, but let’s not forget, it was that selfish drive and independence together with his wonderful writing style, that made them worth reading.

Not the wife marketing behind him!

[GMac]

Originally Posted by Alan Wheeler

You see, to me, if Dawn didn't come along with the my dream, then the dream wouldn't be complete. It was a joint dream. Having her missing would have been terrible and no fun at all. Some can be happy sailing on their own. But for many, it is about the Journey together.

So Mrs Wheels gets to see Mr Wheels computer then

Can I use that? it's got to be worth a big pile of brownie points if I time it right

[cathyoz]

Not the wife marketing behind him![/quote]

we are not here to talk about divorced or business deal,,
i was mentioning that there is always 2 sides of a story and that Francoise's book was very interresting..and alas for me ( who had like many people had read Bernard Moitessier's books in my youth ) well, "the hero" status was ternish, as in my opinion , wife or business partner or else, if someone films or else , they should be mentioned in the credits and royalities..
the book of Francoise , are not bitter , just if i remenber , he did not really give her the credit she deserve as she did help him to built the boat ..ect..

not all the women are bitter and man selfish in divorce , i am an exemple of that, we are good mate with my ex-husband , actually phone him this morning..and he is still the beneficiary of my life insurance !!!

[TonyT]

never explain
never complain
get it done
and let them howl

[Eleven]

How is it going so far.
I see you looked at Cats. Don't underestimate the windows.
I see mono's as being in a cellar. On a cat, especially with the glass doors nowadays, you are always connected with the sea rather than being buried in it.
My better half wants to work for a couple of years. We'll get a SMALL flat near her work and she'll take LONG holidays aboard. If she doesn't like the med she's got somewhere to go to see the grandchilders and her family. If she does like it, well the flat is rented, she has to pay the rent from her wages that she wants so badly. I hope, if I don't push her too hard, she'll visit for months and pop back to UK for weeks. If it doesn't work then I'll be asking nyself which I need most. Having seen the answers here there may be regrets but most are still sailing. Be brave, DUCK.

[cathyoz]

Originally Posted by TonyT

never explain
never complain
get it done
and let them howl

it is culture thing i supose...

when i grew up in France, the education ecourage you to try to explain ( existancialism),
to complain ( revolution ) ..and no hesitation returning food at a restaurant if it is really bad , and ask to see the chef to point at to him the issue , everybody can make mistake..

to try to do it ( very technical minded country ,even space program. Arianne ..ect )

and off course , to let the rest of the world know ..

well , you can take the girl out of France, and she loves her adoptive country ..but you can take the French culture out of the girl...
her inquesitive,questionning ....etc..etc
At some stage , i was wondering , like lots of emigrant, where my future lay..but I was reasure and convince that Australia need people like me ..
i do not know about the States, and the education there.
i could not live in France anymore , too many people for me , i do not like big cities, but i am glad that they encourage my fighting and equisitive mind at shool, and i pass on to my son..
respect the law ,
"in Rome live like the romain"
but if something does not seam logical to your heart and mind , react to it..and do not be affraid to give your opinion.

[Lorianne Davies]

Hi Catherine..

I was thinking about this all day since the mixup with Pelagic's "Gay" joke. Culture and language is what unites and divides us. Years ago, I never thought I'd be so "far away" from my American neighbours.

Makes me sad....

thanks for the pm...just got home from work and will make my way through the French narrative...looking at flights to Syndney..will ley you know how Paris goes...a bientot!!!

[Lorianne Davies]

Boy, I really need to stop posting after a long day at work!!!

[Paul Ouellette]

Lorraine :

It could be worse...

YouTube - Robin Williams - The French

[cathyoz]

i every culture there is good and bad.
and i have been given as the last piece of S--- the nuclear stuff since 25 years ago I am Australia...
i was in Oz , when the French secret service bomb in NZ le rainbow warrior..

i was always been against nuclear myself and do not smoke and I support the smoking free space and zone big time , but it is irrevant to try to explain to ignorant jugmental people .
And they still throgh it at me because of my accent ..but , when i tell theses ignorant people that Australia is the first productor of Uranium of the world , and by the way sell it to the French .
hummmm...who is hypocrite here ??
the different of the French education is to tell your opinion and express it , it is MY opinion better that the more reserved education of "some" country who impose "only give your opinion when you will be ask "..
the French in my opinion are very individualistic people for sure, and i aprove of their secular education
Dispate i was abandon by my parents and was very poor and destitude very young ..i was raise in States schools.
I was allowed to developp and emancipate of my own mind and freedoom, and even top education there is FREE......and i study math and science...but wanted to travel the world and go sailing very young...
my niece is on a top math- physique university of France , and all her education is FREE..
well , i wish it was the same in OZ. where a good education even at hight school cost 30 000 /year without the lunch meals.....
there are good and bad in all country , and the best way is too take the best of each culture and progress..
to come and attach me or any French person for that matter with the nuclear stuff is ignorant , as ignorant that to blame all American for the action of Bush , or all the japonese for the Whales extension..
it is not progressive and irrelevant on a sailing forum to my opinion..
but i wonder if you even went to France yourself ?
did i notice you have "a Beneteau ".??.interresting ....

it is more fun to be a politic men or women in France , where you can have mistress and lover( it is not such a big fuss) , even just after been elected you can divorce and married a top model singer 20 years younger ,who has posed maked in magazines ..than in some other country where having a simple "B.J" by your secretary, ruin your political carreer ..
who is silly there and hypocrite ?..

[cathyoz]

La Fayette
the Americain come and rescuit and safe France , thanks to all American ..
i will have been Germand i supose beeing born latter...much latter..
and The American where a Free Country themself, because They free themself of the English by the help of "LaFayette", and money given to him by the French governement..
French people love and respect American , and people who say the oposite , have never probably been to France themself..

[High Cotton]

Boy, does this open a "can of worms"...........

I'm only going to say that, yes, I've been to FRANCE several times, and even though I made a special effort to be a good visitor.... that is, respecting their laws, customs.. being polite to everybody, generous tipping, courteous and very friendly wherever I went throughout FRANCE, I had a number of instances where the FRENCH treated me with disrespect, were rude and generally gave me the feeling that I was not welcome in FRANCE, even not allowing me into several "clubs" because I was speaking ENGLISH, while 3 of my LATIN friends (speaking Spanish) were allowed in....
I was singled out!

BEAUTIFUL country but the FRENCH have "issues" with AMERICANS......
hard to understand considering we sacrificed thousands of AMERICAN SOLDIERS and I'm sure it will be done again... if it occurs BEFORE the MUSLIMS overtake the country, which is currently happening, in ENGLAND, also.

I'll spend my AMERICAN DOLLARS elsewhere, thankyou very much!

I meant NO disrespect to anyone here, just making a personal observation.

[Joli]

The past is prologue.

[cathyoz]

BEAUTIFUL country but the FRENCH have "issues" with AMERICANS......
hard to understand considering we sacrificed thousands of AMERICAN SOLDIERS and I'm sure it will be done again... if it occurs BEFORE the MUSLIMS overtake the country, which is currently happening, in ENGLAND, also.
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you respect the law , great
did you learn about " joie de vivre "

everybody has "Sex appeal" try flirting ...smile, charming, ' a little bit of "je ne sais quoi "

it will open many club and doors..all around the world , even in Muslims country..

and do not be promoting paranoia about "religion'
the best friend i have Paris are marocain and Muslims..

fear of others and religion are a limitation, not a solution..

[cathyoz]

French are useless when it comes to speak english , how could they single you out ??
they will not know your language ..
maybe you where to "good looking" , and they fear to take over all the girls....
or boys ???????

take it easy mate ..
we love to hate the French , me included , and all what they say about the French are alas TRUE ..arrogant, rude, good food and good L-----
and good " wine women and song"
it is not the most visited country by tourist of the world ???
interesting......