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Old 01-10-2014, 17:21   #331
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Same thing that happened to kids calling their teachers Mr. Mrs., Sir, Ma'am and people actually giving up their seat to the elderly or pregnant women.



We all got old (you too) and in the meantime the world went to hell in a handbasket.

My kids, and Grandkids Damn well better say yes sir and yes Mam.
I've had people look at them funny when they say yes please and thank you, but I have them intiminated, so they do it, I think even when I'm not around

I know I've gotten old, used to pick up a case of 60% strength ditching dynamite at the local hardware store too and drive home with it, now I have no idea what it would take to buy a case of dynamite now.
I often got into fights, lost several, won several, but now that is not allowed, it horrible to think kids should be allowed to fight it out, my 18 yr old son has never been in any fight, not even one, yet there is an extreme amount of violence now. If you spank your child, your an evil person.
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It seems to me that for all recorded history older people have been saying that the younger generations are failing to maintain a proper society.

Isn't there some comfort in this?
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Guns on board for self-defense? Get real. When's the last time a boat owner was riled out of his sleep in the middle of the night by an intruder, and had the presence of mind to reach for his gun in time to shoot him? (BTW, popping a Customs or CG officer who was banging at the door doesn't count).

Kids getting out of hand? That sounds vaguely familiar. In fact, I seem to remember my parents mentioning something along those lines about 60 years ago. The good part is that our kids and their kids will eventually have to deal with this kind of abnormal behavior too, so rejoice!

Is the World is going to Hell in a hand basket? Of course it is, and the media are doing everything they can to make sure it gets there in a timely manner.

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Thread drift alert, but I like small calibers.
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Get real. When's the last time a boat owner was riled out of his sleep in the middle of the night by an intruder, and had the presence of mind to reach for his gun in time to shoot him? (BTW, popping a Customs or CG officer who was banging at the door doesn't count).
Does Peter Blake count?... maybe not... it was daytime and he was awake....
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Spanking? You bet! You just can't let that be the only time you pay attention to them. Children, you gotta love em, its the law. But guns or no guns, they gotta stay away from the fryer!
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Does Peter Blake count?... maybe not... it was daytime and he was awake....
And he was the only one killed in the boarding.
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Thread drift alert, but I like small calibers.
And big bores?
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No shortage of those.

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It seems to me that for all recorded history older people have been saying that the younger generations are failing to maintain a proper society.

Isn't there some comfort in this?
Not really. At one time, parents pointed at Elvis' swiveling hips as the end of the world.

Now there are psycho ratchets on the subway threatening little old ladies and intimidating 10 guys too scared to get up and do anything about it. The level of disrespect, craziness and apathy is at much higher levels than ever before, and it's not just a "the media brings it all closer" phenomena, it truly is on the rise.

There are gangs attacking people on the streets for no reason other than entertainment, boredom. The sad part is, the cops are nearly powerless. They keep statistics and add data to the databases, but the apprehension rate is pathetically low, because for the most part, law enforcement has been turned into another revenue generation department.

While the complaints sound the same as our parents' or grandparents', the truth is the problems are 10x worse.

I'd rather be armed and alive than dead and my last thought was wishing I was armed. This is in reference to large cities, not out cruising.
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I wonder why, then, in countries with high population densities (Japan) have low violent crime and murder rates. Animal studies have their place but the variables in human culture are not so easily accounted for.

Terminology re firearms such as the .45 Colt are confusing and frustrating. If you look at ads for the weapon, within the copy you will sometimes see the weapon referred to as both "auto" and "semi-auto". It's understandable, then, when the uninitiated misunderstand.

Interesting stream. Glad I read all 23 pages. I appreciate Atoll's persistence and patience with us rubes and the occasional trolls.
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Re: Guns on a Boat, Yes or No?

To me this is simple: when you make landfall, you are a tourist. The only difference is that you got there by your own mode of transportation.

How many tourists carry guns while on vacation?

If you are so paranoid that you don't feel comfortable traveling without a gun, that's fine. You are just one of those people who shouldn't travel. If you are willing to accept a (typically very small) degree of risk to see interesting and exciting places, go for it. You are a traveler. Leave the gun at home.
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To me this is simple: when you make landfall, you are a tourist. The only difference is that you got there by your own mode of transportation.

How many tourists carry guns while on vacation?

If you are so paranoid that you don't feel comfortable traveling without a gun, that's fine. You are just one of those people who shouldn't travel. If you are willing to accept a (typically very small) degree of risk to see interesting and exciting places, go for it. You are a traveler. Leave the gun at home.
how many tourists travel the "high seas" reliant totally on their own resources
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I wonder why, then, in countries with high population densities (Japan) have low violent crime and murder rates. Animal studies have their place but the variables in human culture are not so easily accounted for.
Excellent point. Be interesting to see what does correlate directly with a high incidence of violent crime, whether it be religion as at least one has suggested, poverty as many suggest or other things, we are not allowed to suggest?
Are areas with a high incidence of violent crime, has it always been that way, is it a culture, or is it relatively new,
Maybe most important, areas where violent crime is much less than it has historically been, what is the reason for the decrease?

Note, I don't have any of the answers, these are not a rhetorical questions

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