What did we Learn from the 60's?

[weavis]

Originally Posted by Seafrontiersman

I was referring to the stupid 60s counter-culture and attitudes which have done so much harm to Western society.

YOu will get used to, in time, The quirkiness of the English Humour, not to mention the correct spelling of words. (Yes,, its OUR language, so crudely butchered by the colonies!)

Boatie... he says your really unattractive and your 60s counter culture activities were nefarious and counter productive to the Western Society.......

Boatie, as an ex pat Brit living in Portugal with a lovely girlfriend and an absence of need for viagra...... and a liking for good rum..... will of course answer in a hero like way in due course...

This is our way of keeping Coop the Mod in a job.

[weavis]

and for your edification, I would ask that you refrain from including ME in the old farts category..........
I just associate with them.
Im not old enough to join the club.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by weavis

YOu will get used to, in time, The quirkiness of the English Humour, not to mention the correct spelling of words. (Yes,, its OUR language, so crudely butchered by the colonies!)

Boatie... he says your really unattractive and your 60s counter culture activities were nefarious and counter productive to the Western Society.......

Boatie, as an ex pat Brit living in Portugal with a lovely girlfriend and an absence of need for viagra...... and a liking for good rum..... will of course answer in a hero like way in due course...

This is our way of keeping Coop the Mod in a job.

Not an ex-pat brit... went to England from the Indian sub-continent in 1964.. got expelled from school and was given the choice.. Army (Dad served), Air Force (Mom served) so I chose the Navy.. old colonial family that stayed on after independence..
So definitely did not spit at service personnel.. well once kinda.. first time I threw up into the wind.. and last..
Don't do Vespa any more.. need the adrenalin these days.. my last bike was one of these..

[rognvald]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Not being a fish eating barbarian.. the fact that cod is now an endangered species.. along with tuna, plaice etc.. cannot be laid at my door..
Ban commercial fishing is what I say.. for at least 10yrs.
Eat more sheep and lamb.. save the ozone layer

Boatman,
Of course, my original remark was not about fish at all, but rather personal responsibility, ergo, the response by Mark which seemed "effected" as to my intent and the statement's understanding. However, for the record, I am a lifelong hunter and fisherman and a proud carnivore of all flesh. The "overfishing," which I also believe is real, is more a by-product of population growth and demand than the fishing industry's desire to decimate the oceans. If the demand were not there, there would be no economic incentive to overfish. A simple economic principle. I don't believe in a ban, but rather responsible harvesting with realistic limits. However, this has nothing to do with my original statement:
Give a man a fish, feed him for a day;
Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime.
A lesson about personal responsibility that some have sorely forgotten in the good old USA.
Love and happiness, brother Al Green.
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[a64pilot]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Not an ex-pat brit... went to England from the Indian sub-continent in 1964.. got expelled from school and was given the choice.. Army (Dad served), Air Force (Mom served) so I chose the Navy.. old colonial family that stayed on after independence..
So definitely did not spit at service personnel.. well once kinda.. first time I threw up into the wind.. and last..
Don't do Vespa any more.. need the adrenalin these days.. my last bike was one of these..

This month I just sold my CBR-1100XX to put towards the boat. I kept my Husqvarna TE-450 though, I ain't ready to cast off full time just yet.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Seafrontiersman View Post
I was referring to the stupid 60s counter-culture and attitudes which have done so much harm to Western society.

what harm was done, in my view, it was a great period. today everyones the same, boring left wing, environmental safety freaks.

dave

[weavis]

river boating with adrenaline

[nimblemotors]

what I learned from a 60's thread is where the ignore thread button is.

[captain58sailin]

No shortage of cod in Alaska, considered a nuisance species, you can get 24 cents a pound fer em.

[CarinaPDX]

While there was overshoot during the changes of the '60s, there were many good changes. I remember neighbors who had lived separately under the same roof for 14 years without "relations" because divorce was stigmatized and he was a prominent businessman who couldn't afford the scandal and she, of course, didn't want the label of "divorcee". Once divorce became acceptable they parted ways (and he picked up an 18 year old girlfriend, which might be considered the pendulum swinging too far but perhaps not the best phrasing - nevermind).

And the '60s were when women could stop being afraid and enjoy sex. I remember the occasional high school girl going away for a semester or two, "to stay with her aunt". For those not familiar, that meant staying in a residential school for unwed mothers, giving the child up for adoption, and then returning and pretending as if nothing had happened. Or the numerous illegal abortions, some by doctors but many pretty crude affairs. The wide availability of reliable contraception and the popularity of feminism resulted in a massive change for the good, and a bit of overshoot as well.

The world did change back then, and mostly for the better. Now if Oregon would only legalize weed I wouldn't have to cross the bridge this summer to Washington :-).

Greg

[Andrew Troup]

Originally Posted by boatman61

In 1967 HMS Aurora was passing Tarifa... on its way back to Gib.. when we passed a 40ft wooden gentleman's sailing yacht... he lazily reached back to the stern and dipped his Red Duster as we went by...
I was the Ordinary seaman that had to run down from the bridge wing and back to the stern to dip our White ensign in response to the courtesy..
Been.. trying that myself over the years.. no joy..
Either need a bigger boat.. or a bigger ensign.. could use it for a main..

Don't see many wooden gentlemen on todays yachts ....

"their all thum new-fangelled eggzottick manillates" ...

- - - -

Maybe your more recent attempts at a reenactment have been foiled, not so much by naval Captains directing their gaze resolutely in other directions and towards vessels other than yours, but due to them resolutely navel-gazing ....

or perhaps, not so much playing on their workstations, but working on their ... you get the idea...

[Gadagirl]

Originally Posted by CarinaPDX

While there was overshoot during the changes of the '60s, there were many good changes. I remember neighbors who had lived separately under the same roof for 14 years without "relations" because divorce was stigmatized and he was a prominent businessman who couldn't afford the scandal and she, of course, didn't want the label of "divorcee". Once divorce became acceptable they parted ways (and he picked up an 18 year old girlfriend, which might be considered the pendulum swinging too far but perhaps not the best phrasing - nevermind).

And the '60s were when women could stop being afraid and enjoy sex. I remember the occasional high school girl going away for a semester or two, "to stay with her aunt". For those not familiar, that meant staying in a residential school for unwed mothers, giving the child up for adoption, and then returning and pretending as if nothing had happened. Or the numerous illegal abortions, some by doctors but many pretty crude affairs. The wide availability of reliable contraception and the popularity of feminism resulted in a massive change for the good, and a bit of overshoot as well.

The world did change back then, and mostly for the better. Now if Oregon would only legalize weed I wouldn't have to cross the bridge this summer to Washington :-).

Greg

Yes! Surprised (well perhaps not so) that more women have not spoken of the effects of the 60’s. Is there still room for growth and improvement toward/for women today? Oh Yeah! But the 60’s and 70’s offered us a push of courage, community, and confidence. And progress was made and there is no going back! Plenty are not happy about that, but we are all aging, as the bigots and chauvinists are too, and their misplaced ideologies, and forced double standard morality, is slowly fading with their lives. May they rest in peace

[avb3]

What did we learn then?

Love the one your with.

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[weavis]

How to handle the present and the future since the 60s. I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people. I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem work itself out.

[weavis]

Originally Posted by Gadagirl

Yes! Surprised (well perhaps not so) that more women have not spoken of the effects of the 60’s. Is there still room for growth and improvement toward/for women today? Oh Yeah! But the 60’s and 70’s offered us a push of courage, community, and confidence. And progress was made and there is no going back! Plenty are not happy about that, but we are all aging, as the bigots and chauvinists are too, and their misplaced ideologies, and forced double standard morality, is slowly fading with their lives. May they rest in peace

You can tell a lot about a woman's mood just by her hands. If they are holding a gun, she's probably angry.