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Old 30-12-2018, 11:14   #16
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Let's not. There's nothing funny about a media organization that sucks billions of dollars from the canadian taxpayer.
Further to Gord's reply... I'm a mostly happy CBC consumer, and I'd happily spend triple the $34 per-capita annual cost of the CBC just to avoid the wasteland of "infotainment", misinformation and bias that comes from the commercial media in western democracies that do not have an arms-length state-funded broadcaster. CBC, BBC, Deutsche Welle, Radio Nederland, ABC (Australia), NHK, etc - they all set the bar higher on journalism.

btw, Netflix is up to CDN$ 14/month now and I don't begrudge that either (but we won't pay for cable or satellite). So the CBC is pretty good value for how much we watch.
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Let's not let the thread morph into a discussion of politics or a discussion along the lines of "my Dad can beat your Dad" ;-)

It's agin the rules and none of us mods take any joy in having to delete posts.

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Australia's Macquarie University Fish Lab confirms what we were all thinking*:

Sharks are sophisticated evil geniuses, who like nothing more than kicking back with a bit of Herbie Hancock, while they quietly plot our destruction.

Apparently, they can learn to associate the sound of jazz with food.


https://news.nationalgeographic.com/...d-animals-spd/

* Animal Cognitionhttps://link.springer.com/article/10...071-018-1183-1
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Old 04-01-2019, 04:51   #19
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Give Canada back the Northwest Angle located in MANITOBA

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We tried to take Quebec but YOU guys used guns to stop us. Now you can keep it. Nah.
From post #134 ➥ Question re: guns on board in Bahamas

Now there is a call for the U.S. government to adjust the border near Manitoba to give Canada the geographic oddity known as the Northwest Angle.
To make the journey by land between the Northwest Angle and the rest of the United States, residents must pass through two international borders — at the east and southern boundaries of Manitoba.

More ➥ https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manit...rder-1.4962228

Sign This Petition ➥ https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...cated-manitoba
Needs 96,976 signatures by January 29, 2019 to get a response from the White House
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Note: This wasn't a deliberate rip-off, like the Alaska Panhandle, or a geographical quirk, like the Detroit-Windsor inversion - it was a stupid mistake, based upon an inaccurate map.



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Note: This wasn't a deliberate rip-off, like the Alaska Panhandle, or a geographical quirk, like the Detroit-Windsor inversion - it was a stupid mistake, based upon an inaccurate map.
And a bit of trivia connected with the NW Angle, that is the most northerly point of land in the contiguous 48 states.
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Why did Isle Royale, about 15 miles from the Canadian mainland, end up as part of the more distant United States?

In general, the boundary between the US and British Canada (a colony at the time) was generally supposed to run down the middle of Lake Superior, Huron, Erie and Ontario. That pretty much happened in terms of Huron, Erie, and Ontario, but not for Lake Superior.

The Peace negotiators used "The Mitchell Map", to try to describe and fix the boundaries between the newly independent United States and British North America. Unfortunately, the Mitchell Map was not totally accurate. One of its areas of least accuracy was the western end of Lake Superior.
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This led to a dispute between the United States and Britain over where the border ran. The British claimed that border should be at the tip of the lake (Where Duluth Minnesota is now) while the Americans thought the border should be where Thunder Bay Ontario is now. During this dispute, it was uncertain to which country Isle Royale belonged.

This border dispute (and several others along the Northern border of the United States) was resolved by the Webster-Ashburton Treaty of 1842. This treaty fixed the current border (which they thought (probably correctly) was the intention of the Treaty of Paris, and the correct interpretation of the Mitchell Map). This agreement established that Isle Royale was part of the United States, and not part of British North America.

How Isle Royale became part of the State of Michigan (rather than say Minnesota) I don't know.

Isle Royale National Park was established on April 3, 1940; designated as a National Wilderness Area in 1976; and made an International Biosphere Reserve in 1980.

https://www.lakesuperior.com/the-lak...ve-isle-royal/

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Gord, three words; copper, Ben Franklin.
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One of the delightful myths about the border creation is that Benjamin Franklin, secretly knowing the copper-mining potential of Isle Royale, fought to have it included on the U.S. side. Mount Franklin on the island is named for him, but alas, his wily brokering may not have happened. The Ojibwe people had long hunted, fished and even extracted copper on the island, but commercial copper mining didn’t occur until the 1840s.
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I learned something today, thanks!

As for any petition, I'd leave that to the residents of Angle Inlet. It's certainly not for me to judge whether they should be part of the US or CA.
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A couple interesting paragraphs about the ancient copper miners and with incomplete information regarding the ownership of Isle Royale quoted from Wikipedia...

In prehistoric times, large quantities of copper were mined on Isle Royale and the nearby Keweenaw Peninsula. The region is scarred by ancient mine pits and trenches up to 20 feet deep. Carbon-14 testing of wood remains found in sockets of copper artifacts indicates that they are at least 5700 years old. In Prehistoric Copper Mining in the Lake Superior Region, published in 1961, Drier and Du Temple estimated that over 750,000 tons of copper had been mined from the region. However, David Johnson and Susan Martin contend that their estimate was based on exaggerated and inaccurate assumptions.[8][9] In 1670, a Jesuit missionary named Dablon published an account of "an island called Menong, celebrated for its copper." Menong, or Minong, was the native term for the island, and is the basis for the name of the Minong Ridge on the island.

Isle Royale was given to the United States by the 1783 treaty with Great Britain, but the British remained in control until after the War of 1812, and the Ojibwa peoples considered the island to be their territory. The Ojibwas ceded the island to the U.S. in the 1842 Treaty of La Pointe, with the Grand Portage Band unaware that neither they nor Isle Royale were in British territory. With the clarification to the Ojibwas of the 1842 Webster–Ashburton Treaty that was signed before the Treaty of La Pointe, the Ojibwas re-affirmed the 1842 Treaty of La Pointe in the 1844 Isle Royale Agreement, with the Grand Portage Band signing the agreement as an addendum to the 1842 treaty.
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Accounts I have read state that Franklin had caught wind of the possibility of copper existing on Isle Royale. The copper was well known by the local Ojibwa and it provides an explanation of why he negotiated a border that jogged close to Canada.

Fortunately, Lake Superior cruisers, both American citizen and Canadians citizens, now enjoy one of the least visited but beautiful National Parks in the US. Canadian sailors can easily clear customs into Isle Royale at both the Windego and Rock Harbor stations.

Sailors of other nationalities are not afforded this privilege and must clear into the US in Duluth or Sault Ste Marie if they last cleared into Canada.
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Accounts I have read state that Franklin had caught wind of the possibility of copper existing on Isle Royale. The copper was well known by the local Ojibwa and it provides an explanation of why he negotiated a border that jogged close to Canada ...
I have also heard that story, however Hanlon's Razor* might apply here.
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See the Sneeze Theory ➥ https://upsupply.co/journal/real-men...royale-edition
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