Originally Posted by transmitterdan
Now you have broken a big rule
Jim. Kashoggi was no freedom fighter as i am sure you know. He was in bed
with ISIS pushing for Iran to overthrow the house of Saud. The Saudis are not perfect but the US press claiming Kashoggi is a freedom loving “journalist” is fake news at its worst.
Trump’s D-day anniversary speech was quite uplifting and well received in Europe. The occasion is not something that any side should use to beat one another up. All of us lost
some relative in D-Day whether we know it or not. Please don’t sully their memory with Trump bashing. The price
paid by those young farm boys from Iowa and Minnesota
who just walked into a hail of bullets and kept doing it until they were either all dead or drove the Germans out are heroes. Shame on you or anyone else crawling over their corpses to make some idiotic political statement!
As I said,
"Yep, all the news '(un)fit to print'...post-truth indeed---is it contagious?"
The problem is that the 'speech' in question was not the 'well-received D-day anniversary speech', but one he made in Poland
in July of 2017. His reasons for the trip and making that speech were, as most objective people have come to expect from him, dubious at best.
But I'm sure the BBC is also 'fake news'...
As for making political statements, while mine was definitely not political, in that it merely outlined the recorded, objective difference in the Trumpsters' words and actions, yours appears to be a distinctly political 'Trump uplifting' and justifying of the torture and murder of an unaccused, untried journalist, something that, for now at least, is supposedly outside the realm of accepted behavior in 'civilized' countries.
So, I would normally reply (leaving aside your false accusations of my motives and disregard of the two relevant points) 'Where is shame actually deserved?'... but I'm all too aware of the biases of those who have convinced themselves of certain (un)truths...