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Old 24-11-2014, 19:05   #196
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Re: The Yard Guys

The First series of that era have a really good reputation, really strong boats, and the Idylle model by German frers its a tough boat to, no like today standars...
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The Jeanneau SO 40 seems to be a tough little boat:

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"Hey, where did the bloody dock go?"
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Here's a Moody 42 that sunk in the ICW after its skeg was ripped off backing off a sand-bar:



Tough trip for Primrose | Primrose with Mike and Diane

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Primrose went aground in the channel at day marker red 18 then while backing off hit her rudder. The result: skeg torn off leaving a hole in the boat. She took on water till her decks were awash.

Primrose is on the hard, she is a constuctive (total) loss.
That sucks.
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Jeez - and a Pearson 40 loses its rudder in the Pacific:



Pearson 40 Owners Association

John Neal's list is taking a beating out there.
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Jeez - and a Pearson 40 loses its rudder in the Pacific:



Pearson 40 Owners Association

John Neal's list is taking a beating out there.

Got another list for us? You seem to be pretty good at using Google.
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Old 24-11-2014, 20:21   #202
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Got another list for us? You seem to be pretty good at using Google.
I thought you liked Neal. He does have this to say about Moodys:

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The Jeanneau SO 40 seems to be a tough little boat:

Try harder Smack, any boat in a boatyard is resting in the keel, this one obviously without jackstands. So under your logic anything dry and up in the yard its a tough boat.
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I thought you liked Neal.
Never heard of the guy but he included Bristol's on his list -- must be a genius.

How about a new thread topic, Smack:

Modern, Mass-Produced Production Boats: Cheaply Made or Unfairly Maligned?

Could sell well for ya. Maybe even top billing for a little while.
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Here is YALOBWB (yet another list of blue water boats). No Hunters and one Beneteau. His comments are pretty much right at least for the few boats in the list I have looked at. It covers a huge gamut in price and size.

John Kretschmer Sailing - Bluewater Boats
I met Kretschmer in Fort Lauderdale. He is a great guy. I agree with that list and his opinions on those boats as well. I have intimately gone through 18 of the 25 boats on the list. I found his comments regarding the Beneteau 456 interesting, especially with regard to today's Beneteaus. I think he was spot with his comments on the 456. I have been on two and really liked them. A very sensible choice for a cruising boat.
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Never heard of the guy but he included Bristol's on his list -- must be a genius.

How about a new thread topic, Smack:

Modern, Mass-Produced Production Boats: Cheaply Made or Unfairly Maligned?

Could sell well for ya. Maybe even top billing for a little while.

He he, Guess who is the devil?? THE YARD GUYS!!!!!!!!!!
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He he, Guess who is the devil?? THE YARD GUYS!!!!!!!!!!
Now, now. That's not true. Only if they say silly stuff.
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Here's a Moody 42 that sunk in the ICW after its skeg was ripped off backing off a sand-bar:



Tough trip for Primrose | Primrose with Mike and Diane

That sucks.
I remember reading about that sad incident. I believe the owners said that the rudder/skeg and boat loss was the result of an inadequate repair done to skeg.
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Jeez - and a Pearson 40 loses its rudder in the Pacific:
John Neal's list is taking a beating out there.
I didn't see the Pearson 40 on John's list. Is there more than one list by Neal?
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Jeez - and a Pearson 40 loses its rudder in the Pacific:



Pearson 40 Owners Association

John Neal's list is taking a beating out there.
The Pearson 40 is not on John Neal's list. The list includes the Pearson 35, 365, 422, 424, and the 520 (530 I believe). His comments on Pearson is "moderate construction quality / quite a good value" I always thought the P40 was a cool boat. It kind of reminds me of the Ted Hood whale bottom boats. The link you posted mentions that the boat was on a return voyage from Hawaii. It sure is nice that the boat did not sink.
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